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To wonder why the massive Nord 1 gas pipeline explosions weren't in tonight's 6pm news?

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HappyPeach · 27/09/2022 20:09

I was really shocked at the size of the bubbling sea & what this now means potentially to some of our gas supply this winter. Why was it not reported on the BBC?

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HappyPeach · 27/09/2022 20:10

Nord stream 2 not 1

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Fingernails4Cash · 27/09/2022 20:11

It was on the bbc radio 4 6pm news

PerkingFaintly · 27/09/2022 20:12

It's one of the top stories on the BBC website.

donttellmehesalive · 27/09/2022 20:13

Been on BBC all afternoon.

justanotherlaura · 27/09/2022 20:13

I've not watched the news on the tv but it's on the bbc news website, I read about it this afternoon there

catsonahottinroof · 27/09/2022 20:15

I think it's really odd too - yes it's on the news but really low down and the Labour party conference items are taking centre stage. That and the economy should surely have taken first place?

Daftasabroom · 27/09/2022 20:15

It was on R4, there are three leaks, one from NS1 and two from NS2. Three seismic events were picked in the area.

HappyPeach · 27/09/2022 20:17

I just watched the 6pm BBC1 news on payback and there was no mention of it. I didn't know it'd been on the radio though

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HappyPeach · 27/09/2022 20:17

The videos of it are pretty impressive

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heldinadream · 27/09/2022 20:23

Heard it on BBC R4 and saw it on C4 news and it's also being fairly heavily covered on CNN.

cowskeepingmeupatnight · 27/09/2022 20:28

I wonder if it’s because people don’t really know what to make of it yet. The reporting I have seen has been very confused / still not clear to me who did it (presumably Russia?), how and what the strategic advantage was.

HappyPeach · 27/09/2022 20:29

Deffo Putin. Who else?

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Igotjelly · 27/09/2022 20:29

The Swedish Govt have just held a press conference. Summary here:threadreaderapp.com/thread/1574837495300329489.html

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HappyPeach · 27/09/2022 20:29

Deffo Putin. Who else?

Biden/USA? I've just seen a piece on the news (GB News) where in February he talks explicitly taking out Nordstrom 2, the reporter asks how when it's in German control, his reply with a smirks is "I promise you we'll be able to do it"

CaptainBarbosa · 27/09/2022 20:35

"This is an attack on Sweden" is a worrying turn of events....

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 27/09/2022 20:36

They were. Confused

Igotjelly · 27/09/2022 20:37

CaptainBarbosa · 27/09/2022 20:35

"This is an attack on Sweden" is a worrying turn of events....

Except that it says this is not an attack on Sweden so purposefully not escalatory

endlesscraziness · 27/09/2022 20:47

Neither are currently in use so I don't imagine it'll have a big impact?

cowskeepingmeupatnight · 27/09/2022 22:16

My money is on Russia. Nordstream 2 never came online but nordstream 1 was only taken out of service in august on spurious grounds as Russia wanted to squeeze Europe’s energy supply. Perhaps this was Russia saying kiss goodbye to Nordstream completely and making Europe sweat even more about gas supplies. While also attacking just outside of Swedish territory as a retaliation for them joining Nato?

But how? That’s what I don’t get. No submarines etc detected. The ‘how’ is the bit that is making me not discount the US entirely, as they might have the technological prowess, but I’m not sure what the incentive would be for them, except that the pipeline is 51% gazprom owned (so maybe looking to damage Russian economy?).

I would like to know how this is being reported in Russia but can’t find anything.

Abra1t · 27/09/2022 22:19

I don’t think we get/are/were planning to get Russian gas in the uk.

Not to say it isn’t concerning!

Abra1t · 27/09/2022 22:24

It’s just on the BBC tv news.

Getoff · 27/09/2022 22:57

I don't see why Russia would do it. If they don't want any of their gas to flow to Europe, they can already achieve that, and are doing so.

USA may have been unhappy about Europe dependency on Russian gas, but they wouldn't do this, I don't think.

The only country that benefits from this is Ukraine. They get certainty that Russia is not going to get money from gas in the near future. If it was them, they need to hide the fact, so they don't alienate their allies. (Actually that risk argues against it being them, but they do seem to have the most to gain.)

OK I suppose OPEC countries may see some benefit, but I don't think they would blow things up to increase future gas sales.

Getoff · 27/09/2022 22:59

European countries may want Ukraine to win the war, but I assume they also want to be able to buy Russian gas after the war, so I don't see any of them doing this.

OhMaria2 · 27/09/2022 23:01

MunchMunch · 27/09/2022 20:35

Biden/USA? I've just seen a piece on the news (GB News) where in February he talks explicitly taking out Nordstrom 2, the reporter asks how when it's in German control, his reply with a smirks is "I promise you we'll be able to do it"

Yep, this.
Why would putin blow up his main leverage?

Whereas this stops the EU countries getting scared of a winter without gas and rolling back sanctions, they've no choice now to do that

Awakened22 · 27/09/2022 23:02

HappyPeach · 27/09/2022 20:29

Deffo Putin. Who else?

Why would Putin go to all that effort though? He could just turn the tap off and not have to bother with submarines and blowing it up.

Who benefits from this the most? America as it will boost revenue from selling their own gas? Ukraine as it’s taken another of Russia’s threats against the west off the table so could get Ukraine more support/funding and NATO involvement? China as they were feeling left out and just want to keep stirring things up?

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