To think some kids have been raised by idiots and act just like them **Title edited by MNHQ**

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After a difficult time in secondary school thanks to bullies. Ds starts college hoping for a fresh start and within weeks the name calling starts again but by complete strangers! Not just names like tramp or scruff- but real sick ones like paedo and nonce and I am perplexed as to why other kids/young adults feel it’s ok to say this stuff? He struggles with anxiety and self esteem issues and over last 3 months had been at rock bottom. I pray he gets the confidence to give them some choice words back but he’s still so stressed. He has a nice group of friends and has said for the most part the people he has talked to ,majority have been so kind and nice. My blood is boiling , When will these idiots grow up?

@EmmatheStageRat interesting that the article you linked included both moron and idiot in the same list yet mn changed the title from moron to idiot even though your article suggested they were equally problematic. Mind you, the article also said offensive when used to describe disabled people (which isn’t the case in this instant).

I'm married to a teacher. Asked him, and he said that he very rarely hears language like that from students at his school. Generally speaking those aren't words used casually.

Maybe not in his school. Not in my current school either. But definitely in some schools I've worked in, and that dh has worked in, and my dc's school, unfortunately.

@NeedAHoliday2021 , I actually didn’t report to MNHQ, so I am personally delighted that someone else has or a moderator has picked up on the discussion. As the parent of disabled children, I will keep fighting the battle for inclusivity and maybe one day we will fight the war! I think the second article I posted was an opinion piece from a very articulate young disabled female? Look, no one has the monopoly on language around disability, in the same way that no one has the monopoly on language around race. But when disabled people are telling you that your language is upsetting, then maybe that’s the time to row back?

(For the record, I have just asked my teen who is blind and has neonatal abstinence syndrome as well as ADHD and autism, if she thinks ‘moron’ is an acceptable usage in 2022; the answer is a big, fat ‘no!’ Interestingly, she had to educate her head of Y10 about the offensiveness of this very word when she complained about boys in her class calling her this and the HoY could not understand what the fuss was about. There’s a lot of learning to be done about the language of disability.)

But your article didn’t say that 🤷🏻‍♀️

so agree. glad its been changed

Idiot is actually lower intelligence than 'Moron' so I don't understand why people think one is ok and the other isn't.

My neighbour was taking her teenager to hospital. He had a broken ankle and couldn’t put any weight on it at all so he had his arm around her as it was the only way he could get to the taxi. She wasn’t called names but got a letter from the Tax Credits fraud office stating that they had “evidence” that she had a partner and was claiming benefits she wasn’t entitled to.

Teenager proceeded to walk around with fracture boot for the next couple of months but clearly some people just jump to the wrong conclusions.

There doesn't have to be a reason. There is a boy at my son's school who is a real little shit and called my friends 9 year old daughter a paedo. I'm pretty sure she's not!

Just read your second post about him having autistic tendencies. It may be awful and not right but that is unfortunately why he is being picked on.

I get to deal with young males, not in an educational setting and the language used well an attack of the vapours incoming. These young males forget I’m there sometimes and that’s when they get pulled up by me. They are words used very casually I have even heard friends say them to each other.

I know others have picked up on this but this is utter, utter codswallop and is why so many offenders are out there offending, and children are worried about not being believed. I have known 3 serious sexual offenders, and none have any kind of "look" about them, 2 were very highly thought of and popular.

@NeedAHoliday2021 we are having a very similar experience. I think it’s because DD is lovely that they’re doing it. But nothing will convince her of that.

OP like you I’m starting to wonder if the parents who should supposedly know better (eg not the kind of people who’d go to the shops in their pjs) are quietly shall we say not discouraging this kind of behaviour.

The kids just seem to not know when to stop. In the same way that “paedo” is considered the worst insult for a boy “fat” or “ugly” are considered the worst for a girl.
We’re reduced to what we look like, again.

I agree with what has been said here about the terms "moron" and "idiot" in relation to disability and I also think "stupid" is unacceptable because it has such a negative effect on people. I am hacked off about the behaviour of some of the kids at dc's school at the moment and was agreeing with the sentiment of the OP, I do think that it is parents' responsibility. I am not a perfect person and will sometimes use the word "moron" at home if stressed about someone's behaviour but I agree basically with what was said here and apologise to anyone offended. DC aren't allowed to use the term, albeit "do as i say not as I do", I get them to apologise afterwards

Definitely agree that idiot parents create idiot kids. Example: The head of my DSs school wrote to all parents this week complaining that parents are bitching about the schools attendance policy on social media, calling the welfare staff 'jobsworths' and 'bullies'....for trying to get kids in school!! DS and I were aghast that a parent would actually do that?! What hope for the teachers faced with those attitudes?!

I'm sorry, but it's obvious that posters who are suggesting these kinds of insults 'don't just come from nowhere' just don't have a clue about what kids and teenagers beyond their own dc can be like. It is totally commonplace for some children and teenagers to just pick whatever insults will shock most or hurt most, however blatantly untrue they are.

They don't remotely think the insults are true themselves. They just want to sound tough, or lash out at someone, or show off in front of their mates,sometimes because they are very troubled themselves, sometimes because they are just mean, badly brought-up kids.

It only takes 1 kid from the previous school to start the whole cycle of name calling again. I've heard those names used by youths to other people - those names have taken over from slinging the word 'gay' to sensitive people or to lads who are just interested in more minority pursuits. Kids can be cruel, I hope your son can withstand it and grow stronger by realising how bullying and pathetic these human jackals are.