Conspiracy about The Queen

[Notaboutthebass]

My friend has just surprised me with his comments. Thinks The Queen has been in one place after her death and not been ferried around in a coffin for 12 days, because it's all for show and the Royal Family lie!! WTF. I said do you a hundred percent believe that, to which he replied a firm yes! I asked what else he thought they lie about and he couldn't really answer until he said about Princess Diana covering up the identity of Harry's father.

Absoloutely baffled. Changed my opinion of him slightly. I hate conspiracy theories! He's a good friend too.

Now that would have been something

They wouldn’t have needed to remove her from Balmoral to embalm the body - the equipment could have been brought in. And the coffin is lead lined so decay would be slower in any case.

I was very confidently informed by a man at the bus stop the other day that the queen had been dead FOR MONTHS and everything had been done by a look alike until such time as they felt like announcing her death.

He was clearly not joking either

@spiderlight no more recent. That is well known. Like Charles' generation. I am going to have to 'research' it 😁

@Novum Perhaps the man at the bus stop saying the queen had been dead for months etc. fits in with the "Great Reset" theory..

I should think the Queen would be rolling in her coffin at the merest sniff of an idea that her death was used to rehabilitate Trump of all people

I believe she was embalmed at Balmoral. I’m also pretty certain a coffin would have been easy enough to bring in without drawing attention in an unmarked van.

those who think this stuff. Obviously undiagnosed mental disorder

although I think that’s sometimes the case I do think there are a lot of people who just can’t process living in todays world and the pure amount of information out there that’s instantly available to them. There’s usually a big dash of ego too.

Paris Match publlished a couple of photos some years ago of Harry and Prince Philip when Philip wore a beard and after seeing those I don't think there could be any doubt that he's Charles's son.

People say she was embalmed but if that was the case she must have been taken from Balmoral at some point for the process without us knowing.

You don't have to be moved to be embalmed. It's not something that requires an enormous amount of non-transportable equipment. Space and access to drains are probably fairly easy in a palace.

How did they get the coffin to Balmoral to put her in it without anyone seeing?

They didn't. Leverton & Sons has had it since the 90's. They brought it discreetly, not invisibly.

I can imagine every child born to a none Royal Women outsider ie Diana would have been DNA tested.

But that's the point I'm trying to make. Lots of unceremonious, normal death related things must have happened behind the scenes that we were not made aware of. People can believe what they want - we'll never know the truth anyway (not that it really matters).

I’m surprised your surprised especially as it was widely discussed last week and not just on MN.

One of my friends made a pretty good argument about it, along the lines of security reasons.

While I don’t agree with it, I can see how it could be plausible and I certainly don’t look at them any differently.

Thats a very odd reaction to have about your friend OP

I can tell you're a mental health professional.

Why would she have had to be taken away? I'm sure someone could have found an appropriate space at Balmoral for the purpose. ISRT reading that royal residences outside London tend to have at least basic operating facilities.

And do we know that no-one saw a vehicle arriving that may have borne a coffin? There was quite a lot of coming and going, and I suspect they'd use a plain van for the purpose.

Well I would say those people do have a mental disorder!

To concoct or believe an elaborate convoluted theory of "what if" when there is no logical reason or facts to support the theory is not ordered thinking. To distrust what is happening before your eyes as being exactly what it purports to be suggests paranoia.

It does seem to be more prevalent nowadays, I wonder if anyone in 1901 thought "Queen Victoria is not really in that coffin, on that gun carriage, there's a cover up going on".

Fair enough @BMW6 but I don’t think comprehension or logical abilities are necessarily a mental disorder. We are all susceptible to some degree - it’s the bread and butter of MLM’s, advertising, cults and mainstream religion. Society needs it in some ways to maintain order. I do think we’ve opened a bit of a Pandora’s box with technology and the internet though. We’ll see how it pans out in the future I suppose.

It does seem to be more prevalent nowadays, I wonder if anyone in 1901 thought "Queen Victoria is not really in that coffin, on that gun carriage, there's a cover up going on"

I’d bet they did. But that illustrates my point too - you’re more aware of it because of the internet, we’re all more exposed to information all the time rather than David Icke for ten minutes chatting shit with Terry Wogan once upon a time.

I suppose even the Salem witch trials (and other persecution of ‘witches’) were the result of conspiracy theories. Jewish people have been targeted for a long time too.

True cornetto, with the Internet available to everyone, anyone with the predisposition towards paranoia is likely to spiral quickly unless they are aware of the danger to their MH.

Perhaps that is one of the causes of the explosion in poor MH in the general public - if alcohol was free, how many more alcoholics would there be?

something as valuable as the Queen's body and the crown jewels to be so close to the public or transported so openly in case anything happened to them.

But how else would they have got the Queen’s body out of Balmoral? It’s too risky. If they transported her in secret there would still have to be massive securIty round them all the time and it would be spotted. If they tried to do it secretly with no security it would be too risky.
So better to do it in full sight surrounded by police and guards the whole time.

It was anticipate years ago and secret tunnels were built.

(I don’t really think this. But if they wanted to, they could have. We have no idea what really goes on. The point of the tabloids and their online equivalents is to detract from what people with money do, not to reveal it)

Why you surprised that I'm surprised? I've not heard anything.

Why shouldn't I be a bit taken aback after my friend's comment? He 100% believed the queen wasn't travelling around, not I strongly suspect or I'm not sure. Thats not normal!

How about the secret love child of Camilla and Charles in Oz who has a court order for Charles' DNA but can't get it. No idea if he's being truthful/ really believes it but either way it's sad for him.

Yeah, he won't release the names on his birth certificate and none of his so called connections can be verified.

Also he looks nothing like Camilla or Charles. Deluded.

You'll probably be believing soon that covid was all a hoax and it's something to do with 5G.

something as valuable as the Queen's body and the crown jewels to be so close to the public or transported so openly in case anything happened to them**

Does something not become so famous that it eventually becomes invaluable, though? Like what would you do once you had the Queen's body? You can't sell it, you can't kill her, you could ransom it but you'd soon be caught. Same with the Crown Jewels. With the way they're guarded nobody's going to be able to steal them, get away with them and then make any money from it. They'll be luckily if they're not killed before they leave the room.