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...so what exactly is "service and duty"?

266 replies

ServiceAndDuty · 20/09/2022 10:14

After countless threads on the royal family, I feel nobody goes into full detail of what the royal family do apart from the same phrase "service and duty".

I genuinely would like to be enlightened on what this "service and duty" is, not including showing up to events and waving, watching tennis and rugby matches, opening places, having an expensive wedding sometimes etc.

I feel nobody has really answered in detail what it is.

I am open to being educated if I'm missing something.

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35965a · 20/09/2022 10:15

I am not sure either if I’m honest. It’s a phrase you hear a lot isn’t it?

FromageRouge · 20/09/2022 10:15

What’s so obscure?

BamBamBilla · 20/09/2022 10:16

Do as your told basically.

ServiceAndDuty · 20/09/2022 10:16

@FromageRouge what do you mean what's obscure? I'm asking for examples of this service and duty People talk about but never define

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LadyHarmby · 20/09/2022 10:17

Doing shit you don’t want to do because it’s your job and expected of you?

ServiceAndDuty · 20/09/2022 10:17

@BamBamBilla isn't that everyone who works though? Everyone has to do what they're told e.g. we all have to pay council tax, energy bills, do what our bosses tell us

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Soproudoflionesses · 20/09/2022 10:18

Maybe using their platform to do good things like Charles with the environment things he feels so strongly about. Or the Princes' Trust charity he started? Other than that, not really sure!

FromageRouge · 20/09/2022 10:18

Don’t you have a dictionary? Or are you completely unfamiliar with the culture? I don’t understand what it is you’re asking.

ServiceAndDuty · 20/09/2022 10:18

@LadyHarmby but once again that's probably most of the population in the world doing things they don't want to do but have to do to make a living

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KimberleyClark · 20/09/2022 10:18

I suppose there is also entertaining world leaders some of whose views you may find personally distasteful, e.g Trump.

ServiceAndDuty · 20/09/2022 10:19

Once again, I feel like nobody is actually giving examples of what service and duty are?

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Eastangular2000 · 20/09/2022 10:19

ServiceAndDuty · 20/09/2022 10:16

@FromageRouge what do you mean what's obscure? I'm asking for examples of this service and duty People talk about but never define

Working until you are 96 would be an example of duty. Not sure why you are struggling with the concept. Maybe do some reading around what the monarchs duties and obligations entail rather than expecting other people to do it for you.

EscapeRoomToTheSun · 20/09/2022 10:19

Don't forget being bought shiny new clothes, never having to do any household work, endless nannies for the kids. SERVICE! DUTY!

averageavocado · 20/09/2022 10:19

Showing up to events, smiling, being nice to people when you would rather not be, eating food you probably dont like, when you're full but have to show willing, standing for hours while children sing the same song for the 500th time and looking interested, not nipping out to the corner shop when you feel like it, not getting hammered and photographed in weird questionable places (I'm thinking QE2 here), criticised for doing X,criticised for not doing X, criticised for thinking about doing X

Its obviously well paid, but not sure I'd actually want to do it

MrsSkylerWhite · 20/09/2022 10:19

erviceAndDuty · Today 10:18
@LadyHarmby but once again that's probably most of the population in the world doing things they don't want to do but have to do to make a living”

not usually til they’re 96, until two days before they die, tbf.

LadyHarmby · 20/09/2022 10:19

ServiceAndDuty · 20/09/2022 10:18

@LadyHarmby but once again that's probably most of the population in the world doing things they don't want to do but have to do to make a living

Well, exactly, the Queen didn’t have to make a living did she, but she did all the stuff because it was required of her.

ServiceAndDuty · 20/09/2022 10:20

@KimberleyClark but once again, there are plenty of people in jobs who have to meet people they don't want to or people you may find distasteful e.g. the police, nurses and doctors, lawyers, teachers etc.

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EscapeRoomToTheSun · 20/09/2022 10:20

Eastangular2000 · 20/09/2022 10:19

Working until you are 96 would be an example of duty. Not sure why you are struggling with the concept. Maybe do some reading around what the monarchs duties and obligations entail rather than expecting other people to do it for you.

What was she actually doing though? She retired from public engagements ages ago? So what work?

HotDogKetchup · 20/09/2022 10:20

I don’t think OP is struggling to understand the words literal meaning, I read that they don’t understand what actual tasks are undertaken in practice for the royals. Although, I think people
know that and are being pedantic.

Maybe a better phrase - what commitments do the royals have? What does their working day/week/year entail?

KimberleyClark · 20/09/2022 10:21

ServiceAndDuty · 20/09/2022 10:20

@KimberleyClark but once again, there are plenty of people in jobs who have to meet people they don't want to or people you may find distasteful e.g. the police, nurses and doctors, lawyers, teachers etc.

True.

ServiceAndDuty · 20/09/2022 10:21

Has anyone actually got a clear answer apart from

"What exactly are you asking?"

"Doing things there forced to do"

Many people these days HAVE to work until late 70s and even then when they retire they have a pittance of a state pension...

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Eastangular2000 · 20/09/2022 10:21

ServiceAndDuty · 20/09/2022 10:20

@KimberleyClark but once again, there are plenty of people in jobs who have to meet people they don't want to or people you may find distasteful e.g. the police, nurses and doctors, lawyers, teachers etc.

And all those people chose to enter those professions and can resign whenever they want. It may have escaped your notice but it causes a bit of a stir when a member of the royal family tries to exercise choice in either department

HotDogKetchup · 20/09/2022 10:21

LadyHarmby · 20/09/2022 10:19

Well, exactly, the Queen didn’t have to make a living did she, but she did all the stuff because it was required of her.

Same difference - her brother didn’t want to do it so had to “quit”.

BattenburgDonkey · 20/09/2022 10:22

ServiceAndDuty · 20/09/2022 10:20

@KimberleyClark but once again, there are plenty of people in jobs who have to meet people they don't want to or people you may find distasteful e.g. the police, nurses and doctors, lawyers, teachers etc.

So those people fulfill service and duty too, what’s your point?

LadyHarmby · 20/09/2022 10:22

Maybe a better phrase - what commitments do the royals have? What does their working day/week/year entail?

Ever looked at the court circular thing in The Times? A list of extremely tedious-looking engagements, audiences and meetings.

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