To take son to GP about pins and needles

[cultkid]

Hey my kids never ever go to the doctor

Both have been once to hospital for steroids for croup and one has been once for chicken pox he was very poorly

Other than that nothing. I'm just clearing it up because from my previous posts it's very clear I'm often sick and rather anxious about it.

My kids are tough and I don't worry about their health but I've started to get concerned about my three year old. I have three children a baby, three years old and a six year old so I am fairly experienced with the usual ailments

My son who's three seems to get pins and needles all of the time. Most days. If he sits on his feet or sits on a bench. If my husband carries him on his shoulders and then he screams for about ten minutes. He wakes up in the night with them too if he sleeps awkwardly. He doesn't fuss about anything but he's had diarrhoea for most of his poo for about three months. I've cut milk out and used oat and it's helped massively.

I've started to get concerned about the pins and needles, he gets them most days! When he's on his dads shoulders we get him off every few minutes to walk so he can try to avoid them. Yesterday he was up on his shoulders during a walk for less then a minute and when he got off he was collapsing on the floor howling about pins and needles- it's not so he can get back on his shoulders he actually knows and agrees he needs to get off.

I am worried about his circulation

My son also says all the time he is cold. I am a cold person, too, by nature. He had a top jumper and fleece lined heavy coat on yesterday and his teeth were chattering.

I'm pretty sure they checked his heart when he was born and they didn't say he had a heart murmur, but my husband does have one.

Should I book to see the GP? What do we think? Aibu to be worried about this?

Thank you

A shameless bump

Yes always get pins and needles checked out OP. Could be nothing but also could be something nerve related. I would imagine a GP would much rather you called and asked

Thank you for the reassurance I'll fill out the e consult for him

A paediatric physio appointment might be useful. I spoke to our son's physio about the up on shoulders discomfort and I'm sorry I can't remember what she said but explained why it can be quite bothersome.

We saw her privately and it was fairly inexpensive.

Could he have vitamin B12 deficiency? www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjNh46M6aD6AhUzmVwKHTkSCGAQFnoECAcQAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.medicalnewstoday.com%2Farticles%2F324265%23%3A~%3Atext%3DVitamin%2520B%252D12%2520deficiency%2520may%2520cause%2520%25E2%2580%259Cpins%2520and%2520needles%25E2%2580%259D%2Cconduction%2520problems%2520or%2520nerve%2520damage.&usg=AOvVaw1hVxMg-Hq75JUJmRgWCaZM

It might be a vitamin/mineral deficiency. Oat milk isn’t a good source of calcium, it could be that (or something else).
that is definitely something to see the GP about.

I think I'll get him to a physio too that's very helpful thank you @FatEaredFuck

Interesting about the minerals he is a picky eater but I make a lot of food from scratch and he just wants chips which is a bit frustrating. We don't give him only chips but you get my drift

I'm always anaemic and low in b12.. wondering if he is genetically pre disposed to this as there's no reason with my diet to be like this it's an absorption issue

I'll get him seen by the doctor and physio though this week

Even if it's expensive I need this checked properly I will hate myself if we missed something

I keep worrying he is very sick

Another here thinking B12. Symptoms especially in children can be diarrhoea and pins and needles. Please ask your gp for a b12 blood test even if they don’t think it necessary. Unfortunately a lot of dr’s incorrectly think it’s something not found in anyone young. I hope you find answers asap.

Rubbish.

Where did you pluck this massive misinformation from? Just a big fat guess, I'm assuming.

OP, as long as you don't get organic, oat milk contains the same amount of calcium as cows milk and many of them add other minerals in.

So please don't listen to this poster.

@ImEasyLikeSundayMorning

I knew they weren't right but I didn't want to take the bait 😂

I have used oat milk for years and years and years

Oat milk is good for you and it's better for the planet, too.

He eats other calcium rich foods anyway because he is three not a baby! I thought this was a bit whacky, do you have a link to the evidence? I checked the back of the carton years ago when I swapped

I think oat milk also has more iron and b12 in it and vitamin D too because it gets added doesn't it

Test for coeliac disease too

Oh the poor sausage my heart will break

I'll see them tomo

Nope; if you google calcium absorption from dairy vs non-diary sources + abstract, you get 100s of scientific papers to back it up.

I suspect you haven’t bothered to do that yourself.

you do not want to be giving small children non- dairy stuff anyway, it’s significantly higher in sugars than milk (even if they do pretend it’s ‘pure’ sugars).

@underneaththeash

He doesn't need milk at three years old
He gets calcium from other sources
He doesn't drink one with anything added to it and it's not full of sugar or sweetness it has none in it
Milk has more sugar in it then oat

That's not a search I would have conducted no, I'm not a scientist.

If you feel so strongly please send me a link to a paper you found helpful

I find your tone pretty rude to be honest it's unhelpful the advice you've given and it's rude and blunt, I don't give advice like this and I don't ask rudely so you should be polite
It affects me when someone is rude like you

I must agree I think oat milk it nutritionally inferior to milk for under 5's and not necessarily suitable if he is a picky eater otherwise. Picky eaters often get away with a poor diet if they're drinking a lot of full fall milk, as it's pretty nutritionally complete (lots of fat, protein and easily absorbed calcium. Yes I know oat milk has added calcium but it's ADDED, artificial, calcium.)
When you look at the ingredients of oat milk, it's not milk at all. It's 10% oats, water, and rapeseed oil. You might as well give him a handful of oats and a drink of water.
Full fat milk has 3 times as much b12, double the fat, 3 x the protein. Calcium is equal in both but may not be as easily absorbed from the oat milk as it's added artificially.
So he may well be deficient.

That was Oatly I was comparing by the way, no added sugar. Not organic.

Sounds like it would be worth taking him to the GP, yes. As others have said, maybe something like a vitamin deficiency or a food intolerance of some kind.

I think it's pointless debating here whether oat milk is OK for kids until you've had a diagnosis. Obviously if he does turn out to be low on calcium or whatever, that might be a factor, but nobody here knows if he is, so not much point in them having a go at you about that. And if he has less diarrhoea now, at least that's something.

OP she's not being rude, why don't you switch him to cows milk and see If there's an improvement?? Just an idea. Coeliac disease is a good shout I'd definitely get him checked for that. Otherwise it feels a bit like you're putting your own issues and experiences onto him, comparing him to you throughout your posts. Get him checked obviously it's not normal to have pins and needles like this but don't get so anxious about it as that won't help particularly with a GP as they don't respond to that sort of behaviour unfortunately and write you off as an anxious mum. Just out of interest are you all vegan? There is a lot of evidence that shows this lifestyle isn't suitable for young children- maybe switch it up his diet and see if that helps at all?

He improved when I took him off cows milk about three weeks ago

None of us are vegan it's just the oat milk that I drink and he now has that in a bottle

I didn't really compare him to me I just said he is cold and so am I which I was wondering if he has bad circulation. I'm asking about the pins and needles not his digestion I don't know anything about any links with that, but I am going to talk to the doctor when they call me today

As I said I do not connect my health problems with his and none of my three children have ever been to the doctor except for croup and CP both of which were OOH. They are 6, 3 and 5 months

He just has the milk for a comfort only once in the evening
He is picky at home but not at nursery
He isn't fed up on milk or drinking heaps of milk
It's the pins and needles I was wondering about and mentioned the Diorrhoea as him otherwise being healthy if that makes sense

Why do you not take your children to the doctor?

They haven't been sick just vomiting bugs etc, don't need a doctor for that
They have been really lucky

Only croup and cp

and their injections that's all

Well does he eat cheese or yoghurt? How picky is he? Is he getting enough healthy fats and proteins? The oat milk obviously isn't the issue but a very restricted diet might be