To take son to GP about pins and needles

[cultkid]

Hey my kids never ever go to the doctor

Both have been once to hospital for steroids for croup and one has been once for chicken pox he was very poorly

Other than that nothing. I'm just clearing it up because from my previous posts it's very clear I'm often sick and rather anxious about it.

My kids are tough and I don't worry about their health but I've started to get concerned about my three year old. I have three children a baby, three years old and a six year old so I am fairly experienced with the usual ailments

My son who's three seems to get pins and needles all of the time. Most days. If he sits on his feet or sits on a bench. If my husband carries him on his shoulders and then he screams for about ten minutes. He wakes up in the night with them too if he sleeps awkwardly. He doesn't fuss about anything but he's had diarrhoea for most of his poo for about three months. I've cut milk out and used oat and it's helped massively.

I've started to get concerned about the pins and needles, he gets them most days! When he's on his dads shoulders we get him off every few minutes to walk so he can try to avoid them. Yesterday he was up on his shoulders during a walk for less then a minute and when he got off he was collapsing on the floor howling about pins and needles- it's not so he can get back on his shoulders he actually knows and agrees he needs to get off.

I am worried about his circulation

My son also says all the time he is cold. I am a cold person, too, by nature. He had a top jumper and fleece lined heavy coat on yesterday and his teeth were chattering.

I'm pretty sure they checked his heart when he was born and they didn't say he had a heart murmur, but my husband does have one.

Should I book to see the GP? What do we think? Aibu to be worried about this?

Thank you

He's more picky then my other son
He eats roast chicken or chicken wraps
Pasta rice and baked beans
Eggs
Ham
Salmon
Prawns
All the fruits like melon apples lychees berries etc mango plums peach pears
Only some vegetables: carrots cucumbers tomatoes peppers potatoes broccoli

He eats chicken broth soup
Ribs if they are just with herbs and garlic
Chicken burgers
Sausages in a wrap but doesn't eat a bun or roll
Toast
Cheese and crackers

He has shepherds pie
Chicken pie

He doesn't eat them all the time he just eats predominantly those things.. he is hard to get to eat all of his plate and it's not a large portion but always eats all the meat or fish and then the potatoes and vegetables if they are raw

He has 2 yoghurts or a larger single yoghurt every day and cereal too but that is with oat milk now
He eats cheese most days

He eats bread and toast

We eat well I cook from scratch but if it isn't one of those things he is very hard to make eat

He eats fish and chips for a treat but doesn't like take away and doesn't like burgers
He is very snack eater so wants small things and often and it's annoying my other son eats anything for dinner really

Well his diet sounds nice and varied. As long as he's not just eating a minuscule amount of anything I wouldn't have thought it was diet related. You could add in a decent multi vit.

Dairy is designed for baby cows, not humans.

Yes, see your doctor about the pins and needles, mention his tummy troubles too. His diet sounds healthy, I wouldn’t call him a picky eater. He may just like smaller portions but more often. I’m like him, I lose my appetite if a big plateful of food is put before me.

@RoseAndVioletSims Dairy is designed for baby cows, not humans
Ridiculous argument. So then children should all continue to be breastfeed till about 5 years old if you use your argument, otherwise they are receiving no equivalent if they're not allowed to drink 'baby cow' food . Calves continue to suckle until they're pretty big.

I very rarely took my children to the doctor for specific complaints but I did take them regularly for their scheduled exams, is that what you mean by you took them for their injections. Those visits would be a good time to talk about what would constitute a healthy diet or what children need to eat and what are good replacements, additions. Rather than posters on mumsnet telling you what is good and what isn't. But if your son had loose bowels for several months, that should be a reason to see a doctor. Pins and needles to the extent that he's upset about it is worth speaking to a doctor about. That's why you should see one regularly, so that you have opportunity to raise these concerns.

Are you in the UK? Since when do children get regular scheduled exams with a GP? (Clue: they don't)

I agree but that's not how it works in England and I'm glad you have that chance but here in England we don't
You visit the GP for a particular concern, not to measure your child.
I do indeed mean their injections, that is the only time they have been to a doctors surgery .

Yes there shouldn't be a dietary reason why he is lacking in any minerals but I was wondering if the pins and needles are possibly linked to a circulation problem as well as being cold

The bowels I think are dairy, I don't get on with it either

How is it a ridiculous argument? We aren’t cows. Why would it be at all natural for us to drink cow milk? Why don’t we drink horse milk or dog milk?
If you look into the diary industry and see how the cows and their calves suffer you might understand how unnatural it is.
I breastfed my daughter until she was 4.5 and she’s very healthy and happy.

@RoseAndVioletSims

Tricky one because I agree with on this, main motivator for me to have oat was that it felt wrong for me to drink cows milk but I don't have the right justification because I eat meat still
Breast is always best however I fed mine all on formula as well as breast, the first had goat formula as did the second but then he had anti reflux milk and so did my daughter

The cheese and yoghurt we have is organic but it's still not a good enough justification for welfare

Cow has been used as a substitute for breast but I know goat is more similar to human milk

I think you won't get the responses you are looking for on this thread it's been a bit of a mean toned one I'm afraid

I've gotten a paeds referral

@RoseAndVioletSims my point was cows milk is a breast milk SUBSTITUTE. I wasn't making any reference to the dairy industry ffs. I was saying if you remove cows milk you have to replace it with a viable substitute, the obvious one being breast milk.

@RoseAndVioletSims and don't bother lecturing me about the dairy industry, I grew up on a dairy farm. And they're 'calves' by the way. Not 'baby cows'.

Calves are baby cows. Are you saying they aren’t?! Perhaps having grown up on a dairy farm you have learnt to see animals solely as a commodity rather than a sentient being.

I agree take him to the GP. Circulation issues are a clear possibility for feeling the cold and frequent pins and needles. On the off chance that he’s also having muscle cramps (and calling them pins and needles), I’d still ask for a blood test for any deficiencies as potassium deficiency can cause that and I didn’t notice any real potassium sources in the diet you listed (could be wrong).

@RoseAndVioletSims my god! Can you not read?! I wasn't making any comment whatsoever about the bloody dairy industry or advocating cows milk! I was simply comparing nutritional values! Christ

@RoseAndVioletSims and by the way, having spent my entire life around animals ( only a small part of it on a dairy farm) animals are one of my biggest passions in life. So do sod off

Such an odd reaction. All I said was “Dairy is designed for baby cows, not humans.” and not even in response to you.

@RoseAndVioletSims Such an odd reaction. All I said was “Dairy is designed for baby cows, not humans.” and not even in response to you.
Odd reaction? Hardly! You actually accused me of seeing animals as a commodity rather than a sentient being, having grown up on a dairy farm. Remember?

Yes, in response to the very patronising post:
“and don't bother lecturing me about the dairy industry, I grew up on a dairy farm. And they're 'calves' by the way. Not 'baby cows'.”

cultkid sorry for causing trouble on your thread...

It sounds like your child has a very good diet.
My child can’t eat dairy due to severe allergy and won’t eat animal products due to her absolute love all creatures. She is practically vegan. She is very healthy in all respects apart from the allergy. Very strong and very bright. She’s nearly 9. She was breastfed until 4.5 when she weaned naturally and has only ever drunk oat milk since then.

Your apology to @cultkid might make more sense if you hadn't name-changed.....

InSpaceNooneCanHearYouScream
Didn’t even realise I
had name changed since this conversation. I do it often.

Don't be silly it's totally fine do not worry at all I took zero offence at all to what you wrote don't worry at all