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No consequences for teenagers' behaviour

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Gallo · 17/09/2022 15:34

I work in a large secondary school, teaching a compulsory core subject.

I've just taken on a GCSE class who, on the whole, don't care about learning and are in very bad habits. According to the TA in the class, this is partly as a result of being given to a cover supervisor for the last two terms of last year who apparently let them get away with whatever they liked and expected very little work.

In the first week (alongside literally every child causing a problem like refusing to sit in my seating plan, calling out, answering back, challenging my authority, wasting time, arriving late, arriving with no equipment or their book, using a mobile phone without permission, failing to complete homework etc.) and doing my best to teach lessons they wanted to be part of and learned something from, I had to break up a fight between two boys, had to confiscate a device on which a boy was taking photos of me, had to back away from a boy who tried to stand over me and put his arms around me for intimidation, and deal with another who deliberately and repeats things I say, substituting insulting or vulgar terms.

The boys who hit each other were removed by SMT. The only thing I can do is keep the others in detention with me at the end of each lesson, where they have continued to defend themselves, be rude and back each other up, wasting my lunchtime and forcing me to spend nearly three hours in total in their company at a time. My Head of Department is aware, as are the parents, but they don't seem to care.

AIBU to think there are just no consequences for poor behaviour and I can't make a difference to any of this on my own?

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MugginsOverEre · 18/09/2022 10:18

Brideandpredjudice · 17/09/2022 16:10

There's no such thing as discipline anymore I'm afraid, it's too offensive.

This.

My 15DD and 12DD say it's like that sometimes in their school. Thankfully they're both well disciplined girls who's teachers absolutely fawn over them in parents evenings. I don't even think at this point many teachers out there care if the kids are academically doing great (15DD is plodding along just fine but not exactly excelling) they just want good, polite behaviour in class. Some of the stories I hear from the girls are shocking. One pupil burst into DD's class last term and in front of the class teacher, started threatening and swearing at a seated pupil because of something she had been told in her own class. At this point, kids aren't even waiting until after school or even break times to go start physical fights. The girl was not removed from the school and no punishment was given.

HollyIvy89 · 23/09/2022 07:37

Lockdown has not caused this. It may not have aided the situation. But it’s not caused it.

teaching children their ‘rights’ and ‘entitlements’ incorrectly IMO has encouraged this behaviour. I do think teens now have little respect for authority or seniors and expect you to be on their level and take what they throw at you. I feel like they are testing adults way more than what we did as teens (maybe I was just a good teen).

if possible can you carry on removing the kids that are being disruptive. Even if you’re ending up left with a handful? I wonder if there are some keys people that lead the pack and you may find once removed the others calmed down. There will be someone in that class that wants to learn I am certain.

i also agree that sometimes another tact is to get on their level. Literally find out what interests them and somehow lead on that?

i also remember helping out in a disruptive class when I was an elder teen and a girl threatened to beat me up on the way home. By accident one day I engaged her and talked to her about what she did at the weekend and she realised I wasn’t as boring as she had thought.

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