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to love the fights on mn?

312 replies

LadyThingFishAlot · 23/01/2008 20:10

god, i have to say i think they are so funny. there are some very clever people on here who are very quick minded.

the question i put to you is...

if everyone on mn had a fight, who would win and why?

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Monkeytrousers · 24/01/2008 21:25

LOL Expat.

Moondog and MB have had me up against the wall once.

I don't like arguing with anyone!! Didn;t like out little misundersatnding last week at all Expat!

NotEvenGoingToBother · 24/01/2008 21:32

and what is "talk the talk and walk the walk"?
fgs people, you are grown-ups!
so someone can write a clever response or a group of mumsnet friends can round on someone? sometimes the posts are full of such immature crap that it makes you wonder what they are like in real life.
and the smugness after someone "wins" an argument is just plain mean.

i guess if that's what makes you happy and fulfilled in life.

a bit sad.

expatinscotland · 24/01/2008 21:35

Didn't like it at all, MT, because you're someone I find most worthy of respect.

And it's nothing to do with 'winning' or being clever or cliquey, NEGTB.

This forum is one of the few places where people can go to get a basic, non-sugar-coated opinion - they put themselves out there for that.

Some think that is harsh, and so perhaps this is not the place for them.

Sometimes folks agree with one another, and so when they voice such an opinion, it's seen as cliquey.

expatinscotland · 24/01/2008 21:37

There is a lot of joking that's allowed here which isn't on other boards, and that's unusual. I can see where it's construed as 'immature', but most of the time it's meant as jest.

Some are more known for that than others.

But I for one find it refreshing and a good thing and would hate to see it go.

madamez · 24/01/2008 21:41

I love a good ruck, me. Now and again I even start one just for the excercise.
I do actually agree that there have been one or two incidents of near-bullying on here, though - people pursuing someone they perceive as an enemy onto thread after thread, starting more than one thread specifically to have a go at a particular poster, but generally everyone gets over themselves after a day or two and if someone is really sensitive and emotionally fragile or whatever, then they maybe owe it to themselves to stay out of volatile debating topics. It's not everyone else's job to judge whether or not 'I don't agree with you and here are the factual reasons why' is the last-straw statement that sends an upset person over the edge.

NotEvenGoingToBother · 24/01/2008 21:44

oh i am sure that's true expatinscotland, but sometimes you must admit it gets stupid and very aggressive. not everyone has such a thick skin and it can hurt people. there is not agreeing with people and then there is just being a total sh*t for no reason. of course there are many different kinds of personalities expressing opinions, but it gets like a pack of wolves sometimes!

and "this is not the place for you", i have seen people use that expression in so many different ways and it is just rude. as if mumsnet is some exclusive club for special people that never get upset. get over it, it is an internet forum and some of you treat it like a school ground. i am sure all of you are very cool, but typing things can be a nasty way of expressing yourself because you cannot take the words back.

NotEvenGoingToBother · 24/01/2008 21:47

all i am saying is the people that cannot admit there is a some degree of bullying on mumsnet are usually the main culprits.
you must see it, you must!

mrsruffallo · 24/01/2008 22:32

lol,negtb-I agree with you. As I said before it makes me wonder why they ned to come on here to express their anger. It does come across as sad

expatinscotland · 24/01/2008 22:35

no, having seen true bullying, and experienced myself - racial bullying - sorry, but i can't agree.

it's not a usual site, especially in how it is moderated - or lack thereof.

but it's one of millions online, hence, there's a niche for everyone, if not this one, than another.

a lot of it is taken way out of context, IME, and misconstrued.

as many a wise MNer has pointed out, it's one site among millions and if one if it is adding to one's stress in life, and one can't divorce oneself from that, it really is time to maybe re-evaluate and take a break.

expatinscotland · 24/01/2008 22:37

so it gets stupid and agressive, well, perhaps others don't feel that way.

i just don't go there anymore, rather than take it personally.

becuase it's a site in cyberspace.

NotEvenGoingToBother · 24/01/2008 22:49

i use bully for want of a better word. i actually think a new word needs to be created for what happens here.

and there you go again with the "if you can't handle it, leave", albeit worded differently. why should someone have to leave because a small minority of you seem to enjoy being nasty? 95% of people on here are perfectly nice most of the time.
i actually agree with you. much is taken out of context because we are not speaking. i also agree that none of you will ever change because this seems to be how you get your aggression out of your system. you get to be cool by tearing people down for the amusement of others. some of you do really think you are something special in the way you attack every word some people say. is it worth being mean, just to get a from one of your online mates? sad if it is.

i don't mean to pick on you specifically expatinscotland, but your name did come up as one of the best fighters on mumsnet. not by me, but by people that must have seen it before.

NotEvenGoingToBother · 24/01/2008 22:52

okay, but why can we not share a space like mumsnet in a nice way? i do agree that sensitive people should stay off volatile threads, but it happens all across the boards.

and maybe you have been on mumsnet for a while, but it might scare off new people to see this. wouldn't that be a shame or do all of you just want to keep it exclusive? if that is the case, do a members only like on msn.

i do see your point and i hope you can see mine.

expatinscotland · 24/01/2008 22:55

it's a site!

it is what it is! it's different in flavour from many others, and that's why so many hang round for years and years the way they do.

it's a big, wide world out there.

and what one person sees as nasty and aggressive, another one just sees as being real.

what one person sees as sad, another one just sees as plain-talking.

and it really is, take it or leave it as it is.

because that's basically life.

so yes, i've been named, so have countless others.

big deal.

i come here because i get it and people get me, and some people don't and some i don't get but more i do so that's why i'm here.

at the end of the day, if it really bugged me that much i wouldn't be here.

but what i don't get is folks who come on here and continually go on about how bullying, cliquey, nasty, aggressive, etc it is. i mean, k, yes, we get it! you find it awful. so why bother, as your name suggests?

or who namechange to come on and slag off people, as happens ad nauseum.

or who namechange and then start threads to slag a particular poster.

and then turn around and say it's bullying and nasty.

really?

it's still going to carry on as it has.

expatinscotland · 24/01/2008 22:57

because people don't even know or notice who is new, especially with the number of namechanges.

so what? some people change their academic posting style because there may be newbies who don't get it?

see what i mean?

it's a HUGE site with a certain flavour, so it's best to be yourself and take what comes with that.

CaptainCod · 24/01/2008 22:59

what i loev abotu the rows is when you are being attacked , mayeb abotu a joke abotu alan partridge...EVERYOEN piels in saying the same thing but tyring to be the most articulatae poster that everyone says " ooh yes aithc you say it right" ( or whoever

thent hey say

" come on cod stadn up for yourslef"

and you ahev gone to work

NotEvenGoingToBother · 24/01/2008 23:00

i am not sure what anything you said has to do with anything i said.

but carry on, you seem to be good at what you do. and judging by the amount of time you spend on here, your not good at much else.

how was that?

DoodleToYou · 24/01/2008 23:01

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CaptainCod · 24/01/2008 23:01

AND i love it when folk drag up stuff too

and say "well oyu must be a SHIT goevrnro to think that cats are nice"

then you get oflk comign on to say

" well i like cod/zippi.tamba cos they once stroked an amoeba"
talkign abotu you as if you arent there

CaptainCod · 24/01/2008 23:01

an wank to us ebign nice all the time
DULL DULL DULL

NotEvenGoingToBother · 24/01/2008 23:02

???

expatinscotland · 24/01/2008 23:03

um, whatever, NEGTB.

because anyone who obviously has time to track how much time one poster spends on a certain site is, well, .

but i'm flattered at any rate!

Heathcliffscathy · 24/01/2008 23:04

'okay, but why can we not share a space like mumsnet in a nice way?'

nice. NICE????

urghhh please. go and be nice on babyworld.

kind: mn can be massively so. generous: ditto.

funny, surreal, aggressive, insightful, strange silly, passionate.

but take your nice somewhere else please. there are plenty of good homes for it...or stick around it's up to you of course.

expatinscotland · 24/01/2008 23:04

yes, let's change our name and start another thread about how nasty, cliquey, bullying and aggressive cod/MN/XYZ poster is . . .

CaptainCod · 24/01/2008 23:05

raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar

sophable
ds?

Spockster · 24/01/2008 23:05

...she's gone to work....