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To ask, what/who do you believe in?

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BecauseICan22 · 15/09/2022 08:22

Is it a God?

A higher power?

The Government? (I know).

Yourself?

Others? Family? Pets?

A new day? (I hear the song too).

When you are feeling desolate and beyond exhausted with it all, what pulls you back? Mash? Netflix? Mumsnet?

What can you ultimately rely on?

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KangarooKenny · 15/09/2022 08:25

Do I believe in God ? No, because I don’t believe a god would make the ability for a person to be a paedophile, or would invent cancer. I believe that religious books were written to control people in, what was then, a lawless world.
I purely believe in what I can see.

Beetlewings · 15/09/2022 08:31

Not a higher power but a deep and concrete knowledge within me that we are all made of the same stuff, so when you are kind you're being kind to yourself. Be hateful and you are hating yourself etc

AFS1 · 15/09/2022 08:33

I believe that the vast vast majority of people are inherently good. I believe that shines through in times of crisis.
I don’t believe people need a belief in a higher power to be good. I believe most people just want to be kind.

BecauseICan22 · 15/09/2022 08:35

Beetlewings · 15/09/2022 08:31

Not a higher power but a deep and concrete knowledge within me that we are all made of the same stuff, so when you are kind you're being kind to yourself. Be hateful and you are hating yourself etc

This is so very accurate. I have never looked at things like that. Thank you.

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BecauseICan22 · 15/09/2022 08:36

AFS1 · 15/09/2022 08:33

I believe that the vast vast majority of people are inherently good. I believe that shines through in times of crisis.
I don’t believe people need a belief in a higher power to be good. I believe most people just want to be kind.

I agree regarding kindness. But I think we are the most selfish in times of need too and we crave understanding and kindness from others but when it comes down to the wire, we often only see ourselves. I think this is sad.

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GingerFigs · 15/09/2022 08:38

Agree with @KangarooKenny that religious books were written to control people.

I don't believe in God or any higher power. If they existed then why are there such horrible things / people. A God / insert other higher power name would be a pretty sick bastard to let the stuff happen as it does.

I think some of the 'characters' that are written about in religious texts potentially existed but as preachers with very embellished stories eg there may have been a chap called Jesus who was a preacher and perhaps he called himself the son of god but he made it up or had some serious mental health hallucinations.

I find it sad that people are still being controlled by religion.

hellcatspangle · 15/09/2022 08:39

Dogs.

BecauseICan22 · 15/09/2022 08:39

KangarooKenny · 15/09/2022 08:25

Do I believe in God ? No, because I don’t believe a god would make the ability for a person to be a paedophile, or would invent cancer. I believe that religious books were written to control people in, what was then, a lawless world.
I purely believe in what I can see.

I used to think like this. I've ultimately come to the conclusion that we all have free will and the vast majority of us can act upon that will accordingly.

We make choices, decisions and then create our reality.

God, whether or not real, does not control our actions, we as humans do and I think some humans are born without the capacity to feel the pain they cause to others.

I believe biology means that as we are made of organic matter, we will get sick and will die.

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BecauseICan22 · 15/09/2022 08:40

GingerFigs · 15/09/2022 08:38

Agree with @KangarooKenny that religious books were written to control people.

I don't believe in God or any higher power. If they existed then why are there such horrible things / people. A God / insert other higher power name would be a pretty sick bastard to let the stuff happen as it does.

I think some of the 'characters' that are written about in religious texts potentially existed but as preachers with very embellished stories eg there may have been a chap called Jesus who was a preacher and perhaps he called himself the son of god but he made it up or had some serious mental health hallucinations.

I find it sad that people are still being controlled by religion.

So what grounds you?

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BecauseICan22 · 15/09/2022 08:41

I believe in the power of my own thinking. Both negative and positive.

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WhackingPhoenix · 15/09/2022 08:41

Miracles (you sexy thing)

BecauseICan22 · 15/09/2022 08:41

hellcatspangle · 15/09/2022 08:39

Dogs.

I've never had a dog. I do know they have the greatest capacity to heal and soothe.

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Goforgo · 15/09/2022 08:42

I’m not religious and I don’t believe in a higher power. But I absolutely believe in being a good person and trying to make the short time we have alive the best it can possibly be for everyone.
I think some religions are oppressive and that doesn’t align with my values.

BecauseICan22 · 15/09/2022 08:42

WhackingPhoenix · 15/09/2022 08:41

Miracles (you sexy thing)

I heard it as soon as I read the 'M' word.

Grin

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WhackingPhoenix · 15/09/2022 08:43

BecauseICan22 · 15/09/2022 08:42

I heard it as soon as I read the 'M' word.

Grin

I don’t actually believe in miracles but it’s the first thing that popped into my head when I read the title Grin

BecauseICan22 · 15/09/2022 08:43

Goforgo · 15/09/2022 08:42

I’m not religious and I don’t believe in a higher power. But I absolutely believe in being a good person and trying to make the short time we have alive the best it can possibly be for everyone.
I think some religions are oppressive and that doesn’t align with my values.

But when you're low, how do you come back from that? What keeps you going?

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3rdOfHisNameBreakerOfPens · 15/09/2022 08:44

I don't believe I'm God or a higher power.

I believe in human animal primal instincts driving a lot of our behaviour, and that survival instinct is strong in our species.

I believe we have developed brains to rationalise, socialise and emphasise so are able to rise above our base nature's, but that this is a balance as we can never rid ourselves of instinct.

I believe in times of plenty most people manage to strike a balance between the two, so by helping others in times of need we can keep ourselves above animalistic behaviour.

I also think we excuse some pretty horrific behaviour because we think we are above other lifeforms on earth. This is a fallacy, we are not that important and as a destructive species we need to take an active role in not destroying it to the best of our abilities.

Mostly, I just think people are people. Neither all good or all bad. Shades of grey.

iloveeverykindofcat · 15/09/2022 08:47

What do you mean by believe in? Believe to what end?

BecauseICan22 · 15/09/2022 08:48

WhackingPhoenix · 15/09/2022 08:43

I don’t actually believe in miracles but it’s the first thing that popped into my head when I read the title Grin

But you must believe in Miracle's - have you never tried ALL the desserts? Or got the best parking space. Or itched that itch at just the right angle or, or when you're bursting for a wee and you finally make it, even better if it's your own bathroom! We are surrounded by Miracles GrinWink

I also believe in Dancing Queen's, I'm one of them. Music and movement - can shift the hurt and ache out of your body and mind.

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3rdOfHisNameBreakerOfPens · 15/09/2022 08:49

Im sorry op, but how does cancer relate to free will?
Are you suggesting people choose it?!

BecauseICan22 · 15/09/2022 08:50

iloveeverykindofcat · 15/09/2022 08:47

What do you mean by believe in? Believe to what end?

This is an excellent question. I guess what creates your core value system?

How do you pull yourself through the bad and then still appreciate the good.

When you're feeling stuck, how do you become unstuck? I'm sure there's a song here somewhere.

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BecauseICan22 · 15/09/2022 08:53

3rdOfHisNameBreakerOfPens · 15/09/2022 08:49

Im sorry op, but how does cancer relate to free will?
Are you suggesting people choose it?!

Not at all. If you read my post, I'm making reference to the negative acts that people execute.
Decisions they make.
Choices. Accountability is a human process, not a religious one.

Cancer, illness anything like that, how could that ever be an active choice. You get Cancer, you don't choose it.

I thought my post was quite clear, if not, it is now.

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BeyondMyWits · 15/09/2022 08:53

I'm not religious, don't believe in a higher power. I am me, we are all people. The good, the bad, the indifferent. We all choose to behave how we do. I choose to generally be person who helps others... Generally.

We live, we die, we feed the worms, and so it goes on. All our atoms that make us up have existed through ages, all the atoms that make us up will remain long after "we" have gone.

3rdOfHisNameBreakerOfPens · 15/09/2022 09:02

Well, my mistake was because you only addressed half of the pp point.

I largely agree with you in a lot of points, but I think you may think free will can always overide base instinct, whereas I don't.

You know if there was a famine you'd bonk me on the head for the last heel of bread before I could blink. And vice versa I'm sure.
I get hangry though so would probably reach that point much sooner.

SantanaBinLorry · 15/09/2022 09:10

"I also believe in Dancing Queen's, I'm one of them. Music and movement - can shift the hurt and ache out of your body and mind"

Yes to this. I worship at the high church of Drum and Base and pray at the alter of Jungle. It never ever lets me down.

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