To worry that things will kick off in London this week?

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By that I mean civil unrest? I certainly hope not but is it a worry given the simmering tension around things like peaceful protesters being warned they'd be arrested, people being reminded they're living in an incredibly unequal society during a cost of living crisis, the anger surrounding the police shooting of an unarmed man recently etc.

I image police officers are being drafted in from all over the country in near record numbers, but is anyone else worried a few heavy handed arrests over the next few days could actually tip the balance into serious disorder?

I believe we're just armchair protestors, deemed too lazy and unworthy to even grace the pages of Mumsnet! Sometimes I don't bother getting involved in discussions as I can't take the flak for being a lone wolf howling in the wilderness.

I do think that how the event is policed will determine whether anything kicks off.

I believe, as many other posters have surmised also, that Winter will see a lot of discontent and it will take only a minor provocation for people to finally say ENOUGH!

I'm more worried about what the Tories and (our self inflicted terrorism )are up to whilst we're not looking. They've already agreed to fracking permits and are sacking long serving servants.

Harry doesn't have tax payer funded security anymore does he? Maybe he was taking advantage of William's!

I'd like to think they were sorting out their differences but not holding my breath!

To be fair I don't think that Harry is much of a target. Anyone who would want to target him would have reasons at conflict with why William would be a target. I think it's pretty clear that the Royal Family have spoken about their disowning of him - for want of a better way to describe it.

Quashing the villagers, what are you on about?

Exactly this! If you want changes it would be more effective to use your paper and pencil more wisely, not bang on about civil unrest and the monarchy. The politicians must be laughing their socks off.

I think that people do want to riot and they want to protest but they're far too conformist to actually do it

imissedabit if you think there are so many people keen on rioting maybe you should organise one. There are probably loads of tips on how to go about it on the internet.

This quote from you. You want protestors quashed and arrested?

You do know that the great unwashed are people, not cockroaches?

Let's hope any silly protests are quashed and anyone leading them arrested for civil unrest.

How terribly silly of you.

I don't fancy being quashed by a supremacist imperialist racist bunch.

Your attitude is precisely why people WILL IN FACT REBEL.

Oh deah. Let's not allow the peasants speak?

No.

You do realise that with your imperialist bullshit that anyone elected by people works in the house of 'Commons'. Aka the commoners.
Unless you're royalty, I command you to come down off your white steed.

You are exactly why people will protest with time.

At least 40, probably more, plus royals.

it's coordinated by the Met. They do not discuss operational procedures.

The one thing that has emerged is that there's going to be a kind of 'Park And Ride' so that all VVIPs go to one place (not disclosed) to be taken in by shuttle bus. There are probably parallel arrangements for all other invitees, who will (probably) all have to approach The Abbey by one set route (and arrive v early)

Putting 40 VIPs in one bus is not wise?
I guess snipers en-route might work?

I've watched too many assassination/sniper films!

They haven't said if it's one bus or several

I guess the location of the 'park' bit of 'park and ride' will become obvious, as extra security measures will be noticeable.

My guessing is that it'll be somewhere to the south of the Abbey (because they won't want to cross the processional route, and going round it from other starting directions could be an utter PITA) large enough for all the cars, and able to accommodate at least 1x staff and 1x driver per invitation whilst principles are at the event (they might have to stay in cars, but loos will be needed - all threads about Arramgements seem to end up talking about loos!!) With a decent perimeter (existing or capable of reinforcement)

@imissedabit
As it's a state funeral (I think that's what it's called?), how many world leaders will be in attendance? Who coordinates the security? Does each country coordinate the personal security for their visiting representatives or does the Met or MI5 take over the whole thing?

Why so curious?

Am I reaching in that imissed isn't a big fan of royals and other officials? Slightly nefarious plans a foot? guess snipers en-route might work??

I'm doubt the film "London has Fallen" will be showing anywhere for the next while.....

Agree with this except the last part. I don't think most people do know it. I honesty think most of what you said would go over most people's heads because they don't want to think critically anymore.

Oh deah. Let's not allow the peasants speak

Yes! Start a riot and let them speak!

I think people know it subconciously. There is a general malaise.

Its odd people thinking that people who care about inequality, republicanism, social justice etc, would be the ones to riot.

I would guess that riots will explore not from political conciousness, but from pent up frustration, fear and anger, far more visceral than something like extinction rebellion.

Because I'm figuring out who to target first? 😂

I'm just curious.

I mentioned snipers as protection! Not as enemies.
Christ, I'll have MI5 at my door now.

Yes. The underbelly of society. Those who can't think but only want to loot and commit arson? Those people? Thats me being sarcastic for the hard of thinking among us.

It's bollocks. People will not comply or conform when their children's lives are at stake. I genuinely don't think that anything will happen at the funeral. It would be against every religion that I know of. Nobody would condone it so it would achieve nothing. Respect is always paid to the deceased.

The people who are most likely to rebel in winter though are those who have children in danger of starvation, Maternal instinct is very strong and if a mother can't feed, clothe or house her child, she will get into protective mode. If you starve enough children that you've enough mothers with the same anger, then you will see civil unrest.

Protests tend to encourage poor behaviour. It's certainly not the week for it.

That's not thinking, it's emotive ignorance. The income from royal estates will more than cover it.