To worry that things will kick off in London this week?

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By that I mean civil unrest? I certainly hope not but is it a worry given the simmering tension around things like peaceful protesters being warned they'd be arrested, people being reminded they're living in an incredibly unequal society during a cost of living crisis, the anger surrounding the police shooting of an unarmed man recently etc.

I image police officers are being drafted in from all over the country in near record numbers, but is anyone else worried a few heavy handed arrests over the next few days could actually tip the balance into serious disorder?

I liked the queen.

But SURELY any decent human being can see how sick it is to be spending so much money on a 96 year old woman's death - predicted £6.9 BILLION - when people are literally worrying about starving or freezing to death.

And closing businesses and places of work for her funeral - FORCING people, some against their will and morals - to mourn for the queen, even though a lot of people can't afford to lose the money right now?

And spreading the news over every newspaper, for days and days, as if it's the biggest tragedy to ever occur when, like I said, people are living in desperate times, feeding their children from food banks, unable to pay their bills.

Not to mention that her son is an actual rapist who didn't face any jail time for his heinous crimes - but instead was able to pay it off, just because he's a royal, and now he's walking along in full gear like he's superior to everyone for her funeral?

And anyone daring to criticise this rapist is being literally arrested - as if their speaking out against him is worse then his crimes.

And a huge protest in London against the shooting of a young unarmed 24 year old Black man - a beloved son, first-time-father-to-be and fiancee, by police was filmed for the news and reported as a bloody march in memory of the queen????

It's so dark and twisted, the whole thing. Like something from a dystopian novel or a weird social experiment - how far can you push people before they snap?

If there ISN'T any trouble in London I'll be extremely shocked.

Not to mention that most people like the queen and ONLY the queen. I've seen and heard countless people talking about how after the queen's death, the monarchy should be abolished. People are confused if they think that people suddenly love the monarchy. They don't and they never did. They simply respect a woman who gave her whole life to this job and worked until her 96th year of life. The royal family independent of her doesn't have this respect, they have never earned it.

Try holding up a blank piece of paper...

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/anti-monarchy-protest-russia-police-b2166183.html?amp

I don't think it would be the right time, but I was all on board with this funeral until I found out how much it would cost the taxpayer. I bet much of he money isn't isn't going on the actual funeral either, but disappearing down a black hole never to be seen again.

How much is being spent? Do you have anything from a source beyond a newspaper making guesses etc?

An estimated 6.9 billion pounds is being spent. Disgusting.

Imagine the costs of a presidential system that has to go through a huge palaver similar to this every 4 years!
The queen living so long has saved us a packet over the years ( if your main argument is cost)
We’ll have Charles coronation too maybe next year but that should be it for maybe 10-20 years.
think how often republics change their head of state in that time. Maybe 3-4 times?
Constitutional monarchies win against republics on the cost effectiveness measure too!

Yes I was being sarcastic as Islington is known for those planning a revolution (Corbyn & Co) and Champagne Socialists (not so sure if they are so anti monarchy many have accepted or are indeed titled)

They are in south London too - Clapham Common, Putney, Wimbledon, Dulwich Village (they are overjoyed with their new neighbour)

I guess you went to the lecture "If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, then baffle them with your bullshit?"
Because that is what that post is. Bullshit.

Why? It’s surely a fact that one queen for 70 years has meant we have not had to spend on a state funeral for our monarch or a coronation for 70 years. Republics like the US potentially change every 4 years.
Our PM changes every 4 years ish but they basically drive to Buckingham palace and drive home again - very cheap change of power!

Here's some stats for you.

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/bulletins/ukpopulationbycountryofbirthandnationality/2020

Since you prefer to spout nonsense, let me read a statistic from that to you:

"London continued to be the region with the largest proportion of non-UK-born (37%) and non-British (22%) population"

Some of that population is not happy. Just because you're happy in cloud cuckoo land doesn't mean that we all eat at the same table.

1 in 5 Londoners aren't even British.

Don't assume that I am.

Because the US is the only Republic in the World?

Condescension will never endear the British to anyone.

But I thought the argument was against the high costs of the funeral / future coronation. I’m pointing out this happening after 70 years is an argument that it’s cheaper than say a republic that changes every 4 years ( like the us and also France).
certainly much much much more frequently than us!

Oh and it's believed that your much revered Queen was not from a 'true' line to the thrown. Edward IV was illegitimate. Everyone since him has been from a different line (a swordsman lol).

I think you're on the wrong thread.

oh dear, running out of arguments 😁

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britain%27s_Real_Monarch

You might want to check the facts and costs. The ridiculous 6 Bn figure is an overinflated estimate of the cost to the economy if everyone who takes a bank holiday spends nothing and the work is not made up at other times. The actual cost is likely to be 10-20 £M much of which will be wages of Service men and police who would have been paid anyway, standfast overtime for the police. I suspect that this is another Bot post designed to get people worked up. A quick google will tell you that the Royal Family costs the UK tax payer £500M and brings in an estimated £2.5Bn to the economy.

He was unarmed and shot dead by armed police. He's not likely to be moving in next door to you anymore. Mop your brow and have a little lie down.

@kewinsurreylass You don't support execution without trial surely? A lovely Surrey lass like you?

Not sure what nonsense you are talking about

I can assure you the levels of immigration are much much lower as are the levels of poverty in the places I have mentioned mentioned above - maybe you do not know London very well and are not aware of the political divides and social divides and the divisions within the political divides

And being of mixed heritage myself family from Asia, mixed family and friends, colleagues I am well aware of the levels of immigration

Some might not be happy not yes come across them apart from on social media