To worry that things will kick off in London this week?

[sunnydaytoday0]

By that I mean civil unrest? I certainly hope not but is it a worry given the simmering tension around things like peaceful protesters being warned they'd be arrested, people being reminded they're living in an incredibly unequal society during a cost of living crisis, the anger surrounding the police shooting of an unarmed man recently etc.

I image police officers are being drafted in from all over the country in near record numbers, but is anyone else worried a few heavy handed arrests over the next few days could actually tip the balance into serious disorder?

What’s happening lol

I work in a very depreived area of London and the area I live in is a relatively poor area. Not particularly police friendly the feeling of loss of the Queens passing is palpable

It must be so disappointing for many on MN to see so many people united regardless of their political views, their class or the ethnicity so many of us Londoners and across the country feel we have lost Our Queen we feel united in our feeling of loss

the concern is that there will be so many senior world politicians (can’t think of any other occasion when so many are together) so of course that is a security concern not about rioting

Probably not the bit you're in ;)

What bit of London do you live in

Islington ?

The bit you're not in, I hope.

Apologies. I thought you were a different poster. I didn't mean to be rude to you! I'm in a bit that sort of spans two realms of reality.

www.tiktok.com/@theenglishconsultant/video/7141095036934049025?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1&q=liz%20truss%20anti%20monarchy&t=1663194234522

Liz Truss appears to have radically changed her views........... There's lots more contradictory bullshit from her from Tiktok creators who clearly have more access to files from the dark ages than I have.

Unsurprisingly, she went to Oxford which breeds snakes while it's not posing as an educational institution.

A good education should produce questioning minds, yet these institutions churn out utter arseholes year on year?

I still don't know why Oxford and/or Cambridge (though Oxford seems to be worse) produces an inordinate number of utter arseholes?

If I was recruiting and I saw a CV from Oxford, I would literally throw it in the bin. Genuinely. They don't question. They're taught to conform! It's like the worst university education that I can think of.

I mean, who the fuck hires these twats? Well, apart from the Conservative party?

London today was amazing.

Name another city outside the UK where the head of state can walk freely and safely for nearly an hour through the streets?

There was a security fella on TV who made this very point. He also mentioned the British public are a big part of why events like this can happen in the UK. A public that isn’t armed to the teeth also helps.

to the teeth also plays a big role.

@sunnydaytoday0 both incidents of anti monarchy heckling/protesting that i have read about ( Edinburgh and Wrexham) the police have removed the protesters for their own safety because the crowd turned on them for being so disrespectful.

Not true! The police removed him primarily because he was being pushed and assaulted by members of the public for being such a disgusting person. Theres a time and a place and that really wasn't it!

Well the instances of legitimate protest being stamped on is certainly not a good thing. The threat of arresting someone planning to write 'not my king' on a piece of paper thing was utterly ridiculous.

It also does not help when agent provocateurs are also used.

Well id say the threat of arrest is infinitely preferable to getting a kicking from an angry mob because they are to stupid and self absorbed to " read the room".

It's ridiculous to goad a police officer and expect to not get threatened with arrest.

I agree with freedom of speech. I also think crowd control is a tricky issue and think the police have done really well so far. By the way that boy on the Royal Mile was most definitely going to get his head panned in if the police hadn't removed him - not because of Andrew but because Scotland respects the dead.

The police removed him primarily because he was being pushed and assaulted by members of the public

Did the police arrest those people who assaulted the man, especially as it was caught on camera and are easy identifiable?

@sunnydaytoday0 I don't have a clue!

I don't have a clue!

Well I'd be very interested to know why they didn't or don't plan to. I thought assault was a criminal offence?

There is a big difference between freedom of speech and the right to protest and being a deliberately provocative, disrespectful arsehole and imo heckling a funeral procession is most definitely the latter.

A good education should produce questioning minds, yet these institutions churn out utter arseholes year on year

On the other hand, it is an Oxford University research team who created the Astra Zeneca COVID vaccine and another who have just created a Malaria vaccine which could be world-changing.

I understand your political views but let’s not be silly.

I saw the heckler footage, he was pulled back away from the hearse and fell on his arse where the police helped him up and got him out of the way.

If this was in America it would be all visible gun toting and bullet proof glass and that guy would have been shot or at least given a once over on his way to a cell.

Everything will be fine this week, Putin is busy and the cost of living crisis will rightfully return to front pages next week after the funeral.