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3yo DS has no perseverance or resilience. I’m going spare!

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LowDownn · 08/09/2022 11:09

DS just turned 3. He’d previously always been very independent but this has completely disappeared. He won’t do anything for himself. Won’t brush his teeth, won’t put his shoes on, won’t turn the tap on etc. It’s reached the point where, if he wants to play with a toy, half the time he expects to actually just sit and watch us do it (like watch us complete his puzzles or watch us draw shapes/letters on his blackboard). Even if it’s something he wants to do, he won’t do it. Like, if he wants sweets then he still won’t open the packet by himself. Or, if he wants to go upstairs, he won’t open the door himself - he’ll just stand and scream. Often, he won’t even ask for help. He just screams. Nothing that we’ve tried motivates him to do anything - we’ve tried both carrot and stick (star chart, stickers, naughty step…).

The part that’s really grating is that he has no resilience at all. If he’s doing something on his own and fails just once then he has a complete and total meltdown. He screams and screams and screams over it. For example, he’s doing a puzzle and one piece doesn’t fit where he tries it on the first attempt? Complete disaster. He won’t be pulled out of it or distracted from it. This even continues after it’s fixed (for example, if he’s watching TV and an advert comes on then he’ll scream and scream and scream long after the show has come back on). He’s never been much of a crier, he bounces straight up if he falls over etc - but in the last couple of months he started this screaming and it’s unbearable. If I hear the words “I can’t do ittttttttt” one more time then I’m going to walk out.

It’s so horrible to be around. I can’t remember the last time he was actually happy.

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TheLoupGarou · 08/09/2022 12:43

Ah. A new baby. I think you have your answer there OP. That's a huge upheaval for him. All behaviour is communication. It's totally normal for toddlers to regress a bit with a new baby on the scene. Grit your teeth and lots of love and patience required I think.

NuffSaidSam · 08/09/2022 12:43

LowDownn · 08/09/2022 12:38

There’s nothing to suggest he’s ill. Glasses were checked about a month ago. I’ll try some calpol just in case. He’s sleeping and eating fine.

DD is 6 weeks old. This started just before she was born though. Holding her or helping to change her is the only thing he’ll do without screaming.

The new baby will be the cause of this! Clearly.

Just dial back your expectations for a while. Open the door, brush his teeth, put his shoes on. Baby him a bit. Let the dust settle and slowly reintroduce the stuff he can do for himself.

And remember it's not his fault that you are busy and tired and probably have less patience with him because you've had another baby.

CrotchetyQuaver · 08/09/2022 12:45

New baby - there's your answer, he wants to be babied too!

partypingal · 08/09/2022 12:47

All of the above. He's 3 and behaving like a 3 year old. At 6 weeks he's probably just realising the baby is here to stay and is absorbing your time and focus.

I would go for empathy and love bombing all the way.

LucilleDarlingtonUnexpectedly · 08/09/2022 12:47

He’s testing your boundaries and feels usurped as your number one concern!

Haus1234 · 08/09/2022 12:50

Just a tiny 6-week old drip feed then 😂

Hes feeling replaced, it’s very much to be expected. It started before the baby was born because he was being told about the baby nearly being born.

pandarific · 08/09/2022 13:24

Ahhh. He wants to go back to being a baby, because there is a NEW baby. Bless him.

Its very hard op, but if it wasn’t this it would be something else - mine the same age started randomly attacking other children at nursery, never happened before or since, it was terrifying and awful. But it passed!

Lots of kisses, cuddles, and book reading, as much attention as you can give him, lots of reassurance. What I think helped also was us trying to form a bond between the two of them - good idea on him helping with the nappy. We also ‘did’ the baby’s voice which always made him laugh - ask him questions about your home, you all, he knows the answer to in a silly baby voice, stuff like that.

Don’t panic, deeeeeep breath through the tantrums. It’s hard!

IHateWasps · 08/09/2022 13:27

Resilience? He's a 3 year old. Not Bear Grylls!

Sympathies though because even though they're no longer toddlers, they can be even worse in some respects but he sounds like a perfectly normal 3 year old, especially considering that there's a newborn baby to unsettle him.

DeadButDelicious · 08/09/2022 13:32

He's 3. There's a new baby in the house. He would quite like to be babied a bit. That is your answer.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 08/09/2022 13:32

100-1 it’s the new baby, to the extent he was able to do these things before. Lots of positive attention and cuddles needed whilst encouraging him to do the things he could do before.

I agree with others that mostly it seems normal 3 yo.

3 is tiny still

pjani · 08/09/2022 13:33

Just to add into the chorus, it’s the impact of the new baby. Try and see it from his point of view.

I think so whatever you can to get through the next 3 months while he adjusts, don’t get angry at him, understand he’s struggling and that there is a major reason why. Gently encourage him to do what he can then just step in and get things done.

I recommend the podcast Unruffled where many of the scenarios involving toddler behaviour are linked to a new sibling.

GoAround · 08/09/2022 13:33

Ahh that changes a lot, of course it’s the new baby! Lots if positive attention, carve our 1:1 time and he will get there. If you have to open the packet or the door for a bit then it’s fine, once he’s adjusted then he’ll be back to being more independent.

MolliciousIntent · 08/09/2022 13:36

As soon as I opened the thread I knew there was a new baby in the house.

Goldbar · 08/09/2022 13:40

I agree with empathy and love-bombing. It sounds counter-productive but I agree with people who say that the best way to encourage resilience in young children is to be there for them as their safe place. It's tougher with the new baby but, if he doesn't want to do things by himself, then probably best to do them for him at the moment and just encourage him to help you with lots of praise if he does. With the puzzles and games, I'd try doing it for him and getting it wrong - for example, if you pretend that you don't know which bit goes where or you put the wrong piece in the wrong place, he won't be able to resist getting involved and correcting you! He'll go back to wanting to be a big boy when he's emotionally ready because he'll realise it's more fun that way.

jennyt82 · 08/09/2022 13:49

FidginSpinnins · 08/09/2022 11:28

Mostly this. They're learning to navigate the world and people and emotions and all that goes with it.

Three year olds, delightful, hilarious and joy sparking though they are, they're mainly just knobheads.

This!!! My youngest has just turned 3 and he's the cutest little knobhead head I've ever met!!!

Apollonia1 · 08/09/2022 13:49

Same as previous poster. As soon as I read the thread, I wondered was there a new baby in the house.
Your son wants to be looked after like a baby again, so won't put on his own shoes/coat etc.

A while ago I briefly held my friend's baby, and then at lunchtime my toddlers wouldn't use their spoons, and wanted me to feed them "like babies". My son said "Don't like Charlie*". I asked why, and he said "mama hug him".

SalviaOfficinalis · 08/09/2022 13:59

I always remember something I read on here - bringing a new baby home is like your DH bringing a new wife home and saying she’s here to stay.

LtMoose · 08/09/2022 14:15

Agree with PP, 100% the new baby, it's a hard adjustment for a child and 3 is very very young.

Lemonpink88 · 08/09/2022 14:25

Our dentist also told me my children cannot brush their own teeth independently properly until 7 also. You should help them until then.
Its to do with the manipulation of the fine motor skills needed with the toothbrush apparently. I think theirs research on it.

Dishwashersaurous · 08/09/2022 14:29

It's absolutely 100 per cent the new baby.

He's terrified that he has been replaced as the baby and your priority. But he's only three so he can't explain that and he screams instead.

Absolutely ease off on all expectations for the next few months. If he wants to be babied then do it. Get him dressed, clean his teeth, carry him, lots and lots and lots of cuddles.

Once he feels secure then he will start to be independent again

YellowPlumbob · 08/09/2022 14:30

Toddlers often go backwards developmentally in some areas after a sibling arrives. Normal.

LimeTreeGrove · 08/09/2022 14:30

Totally normal for them to regress and want to be babied again when there's a newborn.

Surtsey · 08/09/2022 14:32

DD is 6 weeks old.

There's your answer. The minute I read your first post I thought, 'there's a new sibling'. He's doing it for attention, although he himself probably doesn't even know what or why he's doing it. Give it time.

Maray1967 · 08/09/2022 14:34

This sounds to me like attention seeking behaviour from a jealous (and fearful) three year old. He needs lots of attention, and praise when he’s behaving well. You’re going to have to grit your teeth until he comes through this. Baby cries when baby needs something and you give baby attention. He’s screaming as he thinks that will give him attention. I wouldn’t bother expecting him to brush his teeth, open packets etc. at the moment - you know he can do these things, so that’s fine. But at the moment he needs reassurance that you will help him do them for him. It doesn’t mean that he won’t brush his teeth by himself at nursery.

Rutland2022 · 08/09/2022 14:38

I’m sure it is partly the new baby but my DD turns 3 in a few days and she is also exactly like this suddenly. It’s entirely normal.
I expect you are knackered with the new baby and it all seems much more of an issue than it would’ve done otherwise.

It shall pass. Three is notoriously worse than for tantrums Threenager exists for a reason! DD was a delight at 2, she’s a proper whingebag now in comparison.