To ask why people vote Tory?

This basically.
I'm pretty much a floating voter, I read manifesto summaries and vote accordingly.

Because people don't always just vote for a party, they also vote for a leader of that party. Irrespective of Labour vs tory dynamic there was Jeremy Corbin and parking aside everything else I would question anyone's sanity if they voted for that man and support the party who chose him as their leader.

The Labour Party isn't a socialist party.

TONY Blair wasn't a socialist prime minister and under the last Labour government we had an explosion in the amount of private wealth held by individuals.

The evidence from educational research on the tripartite system of schooling doesn't actually support your view that it improved social mobility for anyone other than a small minority of exceptional working class children, and it damages the prospects of the vast majority of ordinary children in non-selective schools.

Which is why the system was largely abandoned.

This.

I've never voted Tory before but I'm likely to do so at any forthcoming elections, local or general.

Why do you vote for them?
Because they are the only party that I have any modicum of faith will protect women's sex-based rights. I'm a "single-issue voter" (though I have problems with that description) and the Conservatives are the only party that align with my views on that issue.

Would you ever change your vote and for what reason?
I have changed my vote towards the Conservatives (reason above). I don't see me changing my vote towards any other party unless either:
(a) Labour comes out with genuine, credible, believable manifesto pledges around women's rights which I believe that they will keep. I absolutely don't see that happening any time soon.
(b) The whole UK system changes to proportional representation and a new party emerges that better aligns with my persona political perspectives.

Do you feel uncomfortable at how Tory policies batter the most vulnerable in our society? For example making it impossible for people to get on the housing ladder, high rents and low tenant protections, no energy bill caps, etc?
No, I don't like it. But I don't lay the blame for everything at the current Conservative's door. Some of these issues rest with the Tory government of the 1980s, some of them are New Labour's doing, some of them are global forces. I would like a kinder society that does more to help the most vulnerable and does less to help the most privileged. But I don't see Labour offering this kind of approach either. I am also hesitant about paternalistic policy which doesn't help people to help themselves.
Also, if I'm honest, I'm inclined to vote for my own best interests. I don't think this is a bad approach to politics, I think everyone should vote for their own best interests.

I generally thing that they fall in to two camps. One is wealthy people who want to 'conserve' what they have, no change. the other is thickos who the press play on to their prejudices and get them voting against their best interests.

Why do people vote Tory

Because they have money and want to hang on to it - that’s the illusion but their
pensions, investments, capital and spending is all taxed so it makes little difference, just more choice less worry.

I could never vote conservative, especially under this recent lot.
Large parts of my family do (the v traditional ones, mainly rural dwellers) though, as do a handful of friends who have lots of money. I think a lot of them truly believe that the Labour Party is further left than it actually is, mainly based on stuff they read in the papers.

I worry about the havoc this current administration will wreak, especially in terms of climate and the environment, and social policy to help those with the greatest need. To me, it feels as though the country is on its knees at the moment, and I can't see the new government improving that position.

I tend towards labour, but they need to get their act together now, and also sort out their position on gender politics, as that's clearly losing them a lot of women voters.

Also, Truss's message that Sturgeon is an attention seeker who should be ignored resonates with a lot of people who would rather cut their own arms off rather than go through another divisive referendum. We're still not over the last one. The COnservatives have been very very clear that they will not authorise another referendum and that's appealing.

Labour and the Lib Dems are anti-independence, but haven't voiced that nearly as strongly.

Great post ! Everything I think too

Concur.

Just about every Tory I have ever known and been more or less the same
They blame the poor, they blame immigrants, they blame the elderly, they blame the disabled.

Paraphrase -
"We're all in the toilet, Tories blame others that are drowning faster than they are, not those that are pressing the flusher"

I’ve never voted Tory, and I live in a ‘safe’ Labour area. I will vote Labour again when they start giving a shit about women’s rights.

So you fall into the selfish and stupid camp

The tories are terrible for women. And men, and children. But nah because they tickle your anti trans pickle you'll vote against your best interest.

Oh and also, why are there never threads about how Labour voters are brain-dead idiots who sit on their arses never working yet expecting the state to pay everything? How that are poorly educated, scum of the earth people who can;t understand basic economics and just breed endless numbers of children.

Offensive, yes? But OK for the lefties to be as equally offensive about people they disagree with? It's like the playground. Really thought MN was better than that. Clearly not.

What makes you think the Tories give a shit about women’s rights?

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There is nothing that wouldn't be worse under Labour. Unless maybe if you're dirt poor and tick all the intersectionality boxes, you might be getting more of other people's money under Labour. But make sure to never better your lot financially.

These threads always go the same way

Sometimes there’s a few posts where people say why, but mostly it’s just posters who don’t vote for them lobbing insults.

Interesting question. I would also ask why vote Labour? They talk the talk but have never walked the walk they talked.

They are all crap, corrupt and self serving but it does make me smile how people believe that Labour would be any better!
I think people just like to complain and find fault.
The truth is that both have done some good and both have done some damage.

KassandraOfSparta name calling does often seem to be a feature of left. They mark themselves out as people not worth listening to.

This demonisation of people who don't think the same way as you is just wrong. People are entitled to think and vote as they please - this is what democracy means.

Respectful debate and conversation is fine and should be encouraged.

Name-calling and insults is just plain wrong, juvenile and pathetic.

You're just going to get a load of posts saying that Labour don't know what a women is. It's tedious given how conservatives have and are stripping away women's rights.

And the new health Secretary and Deputy PM is anti-abortion!

Plus Liz Truss's views on abortion and women's bodily autonomy are unclear...
" When the new PM, Liz Truss, was foreign secretary, the UK government organised a multinational statement committing to the rights of women and girls as part of an intergovernmental conference it hosted in London in early July.

It was later amended to remove references to "sexual and reproductive health and rights" and "bodily autonomy". (Source BBC)

This post describes why Tory voters are generally quiet.

Do they though @WifeMotherWorker?

PM Theresa May didn't seem to know or care when she set women's rights back a generation with her Self ID policy.

Caroline Nokes, who when chair of Women's and Equalities proposed Self ID and who remains disappointed that her GRA Reforms were not taken far enough.

Penny Mordaunt, a chief architect of Self ID who stood at the Despatch Box and declared TWAW and TMAM, is our new Leader of the Commons.

Crispin Blunt has reported women for retweeting JKR.

Jamie Wallis MP believes he can become a woman.

Some Tories know what a woman is. Some really don't. They don't give a fuck about us either way.🤷‍♀️

Just bear in mind that if you strip people of all they have worked hard for in some misguided attempt to rob the rich and give to the poor. The tax payers working to try and get somewhere in life will just leave the Country and take their cash with them.
They are all millionaire leaders that have no idea of how the regular people live - Labour leaders included.

Of course there needs to be help and opportunities but people also need to do a bit for themselves.
I say this as someone with experience of missing meals and sitting in the dark due to having no money.