Driving Tests every 25 years?

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I’m learning to drive right now... I’m in my mid 30s. I think everyone should have to retake their driving test every 25 years. To both raise revenue and get higher standards of driving. I feel if you have nothing to improve then nothing to worry about. If you’re good enough to pass the test you deserve to drive on the road. If not, then buses for you.

You were replying to my list of other, more effective, safety measures. Black boxes, breathalysers etc. You know, the ones that are being seriously considered (and in some cases implemented) by governments in developed countries.

Don't try and swerve now, you might cause a collision.

What if I didn't have a licence, but had lost a family member to someone who would hypothetically have previously been retested and taken off the road?

I'm pretty sure that pilots are routinely assessed. Maybe not private pilots, but I've never seen one of those do a dodgy undertake on the A55 so I'm not convinced that there's an issue.

Yeah, this is why I (and others) have said that retesting won't deal with people who know what they are doing is wrong and do it anyway.

Hence the suggestions of limiters, black boxes, breathalysers etc.

I've mentioned regularly testing and black boxes though, to continue the modification of driving styles. Can't speed if you will be caught instantly by a computer inside your own car. Obviously a bit of lee way will be allowed like now, but people driving at 80+ will be caught quickly and points given.

I'm sure eventually some AI will be able to determine using the line crossing technology etc if you are trying to over take or if you are driving badly. That could then be incorporated and find people not paying attention too. Might be able to do that already actually, it's just logic required really.

Loads more cameras linked to spotting infringements and fines as a consequence. Not just speeding, everything else.
Raise money, make drivers paranoid about breaking the rules and thus more cautious…I know I’m much more aware of bus lanes in Brighton now!

The answer is road pricing or pay per journey.
It's coming.
Drivers involved in constant accidents should be permanently banned. Driver diagnostic tools via software should also monitor and offer advice and tips. Again incompetent drivers should be banned permanently.

The answer is road pricing or pay per journey.
It's coming.

how does solve the problem of bad driving

Now sunak isnt in charge of the budget hopefully it wont come in. Or another party in a few years time. Labour sldissmised this idea years ago

publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm5802/cmselect/cmtrans/789/report.html#heading-1

Still waiting to find out how this would combat bad driving?

Road pricing typically removes up to 25% of traffic. The majority of bad driving is down to overcrowding and stress.
Pay per drive would make people think about their journeys more. Being made to pay directly will stop nipping out, and dithering about. Hone thinking.
Telemetrics would also push standards up for those eager to take on positive measures, It will definitely discourage incompetent drivers, and some will stop altogether.

Far too many drivers take getting form a-b for granted because it's relatively cheap.

From the appalling driving standards on our roads currently, I’d say a good number of people who have by some miracle passed their tests will go on to pass more tests. I think some examiners must have a v low bar.

Every driver already pays per journey. Fuel tax

Sorry every driver with petrol/diesel vehicle

Maybe not every 25 years, but there should be regular retesting done for when you reach a certain age. Elderly people tend to not choose to stop driving when they should which often leads to stressed family members with a horrendous dilemma of reporting their parent or risk a child or someone being hurt or killed. If regular reteating was done after a certain age, it makes the roads safer and families less stressed!

It'll be like a toll road.
You'll drive and it'll debit a card/bank account.
Hopefully.

*retesting

As a driver do you really think is a good idea?

I wonder how many will have change or leave there job because they cant afford to drive to work

That's sort of the point, the government is going to start losing that source of revenue so they're looking for other ways to recoup it. Road pricing may even be dynamic - paying next to nothing for whizzing down an empty road at night but on the other hand being stung for a punitive peak rate when it's busy.

How will it solve bad driving? Just wait and see. Whichever technology that gets installed for road pricing could easily serve a dual purpose, if it's ANPR cameras then they could double as Average Speed Cameras. If it's GPS-based then your car will know what speed you are doing and what the limit on the road is. It can fine you anywhere then. Quite a can of worms.

Nothing we haven't seen before, e.g. the congestion charge etc. Presumably no more expensive than the fuel duty and VAT you pay at the moment.

Seems a bit big brother. Tracking where you go,when you go there , how long you are there for. Not really a future I want.

what happened to the right to a privete life

That's why they're pushing public transport.
The modernization has begun.
I honestly feel there's quite a percentage of driver who aren't confident, competent or both.

Do you live in london?

My partner drives 20miles to work. Taking around 40/45min each way.

The Train journey would involve a 55min trip to take another train 38min to get to the town they work In around 3hrs 20min of travelling on tip of an 8hr day.

The sort of future Tories dream of work,sleep repeat

I honestly feel there's quite a percentage of driver who aren't confident, competent or both

I would agree with this . But us competent drivers shouldnt be penalised because of it

This is a really interesting discussion and i was interested in the breakdown if accidents so i looked at this:
www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/reported-road-accidents-vehicles-and-casualties-tables-for-great-britain
Which contains this: (Drivers in accidents by gender, number injured, road user type and age)
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1021656/ras20002.ods

Which i found really interesting but its a bit of a standalone set of data - for example it shows that in 2020 10,698 male drivers aged 40-49 were involved in reported road casualties in cars, compared to 6,256 for male drivers aged 35-39, but it doesnt tell you how many road users are in that age group to compare it to - you can easily find a factsheet for younger drivers from 2015 that explains how the 17-24 group has the least numbers of licenses vs drivers, but its harder for me to see it for older drivers. Id be interested to see the drivers vs accident numbers for 35-39 compared to 60-70 for example, if anyone comes across any recent data id be interested to read it!

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