To ask police officers or partners of

[Icecreamandapplepie]

Are violent offences in the area you work on the rise? Particularly when it comes to younger people?
Also violent offences within domestic settings?
Paramedics, and anyone else on the front line's opinion welcome also.

They certainly seem to be, with very recent news stories and accompanying footage, particularly in London.

Another (absolutely horrific) report today of a teenager and her 8 year old twin siblings being killed by a man in his twenties, known to them, at home.

I'm very interested to hear from those on the ground as to what the situation actually is. If these things are increasing in frequency and/ or severity, do you have any theories as to why.

Are you writing an article or something? Very odd writing style to be just looking for an opinion.

Totally researching something. Just be honest.

Oh stop troll hunting.

Personally, I'm interested in the replies.

I promise I'm not!

I'm laid up with awful period pain scrolling though the new sites. It all looks very alarming and I wondered the above questions.

News

My best friend is a copper in a decent sized town in the southwest, and in recent months, she’s been telling me about the huge jump in domestic violence call outs and calls to locate vunerable people who’ve gone off the grid (mostly adults with mental health issues). She dealt with a really awful one the other week where a young woman with a terribly sad history of severe mental health issues was missing, reported by her mother, and she was found by my friend and her colleagues literally in the Nick of time. Could be that these kind of incidents are genuinely on the rise, or could be that people are just reporting them whereas maybe they weren’t before 🤷🏻‍♀️No real way of knowing.

It's always been this shit. The news didn't care about it before.

Well this is why I thought I'd start a thread about it, because lots say that it's always been this way.
To many of us though, things seem to be getting worse.

Whats the reality?

It’s always been this bad but is far more publicised these days and online/social media gets a lot of ‘footfall’. I don’t think there has been a massive increase in violent incidents although during lockdown the amount of domestic violence, often fuelled by booze, hugely shot up (married to a police officer)

They certainly seem to be, with very recent news stories and accompanying footage, particularly in London.

Another (absolutely horrific) report today of a teenager and her 8 year old twin siblings being killed by a man in his twenties, known to them, at home.

You know that happened in Dublin, not London?

My close friend is a police officer, most of her call outs are (and always have been) to domestic offences. I don't think it's worse than usual at the moment.

@KrisAkabusi

Yes, the 2 paragraphs were outlining different incidents, the first was (primarily) related to the London ones

Have a look here for actual evidence rather than sourcing pointless anecdotes

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/crimeinenglandandwales/yearendingdecember2021#domestic-abuse-and-sexual-offences

There's just more in the news because papers/ sites have pages to fill and it's silly season. No parliament and the government has basically been off work since July.

Despite many crises there isn't actually much news around.

Crime's always a good filler.

But crime reporting isn't an accurate measure of actual crime.

I think you have an issue with London.

Why not look up official crime stats instead of asking for peoples anecdotal data

I think anecdotal accounts are a part of a picture as well as stats.

Plus it's a free country and a chat forum.

No amount of anecdotes from the front line will give you the answers you seek regarding whether violence is increasing or not. That’s what ONS is for…they gather all the reports from all the police and add it up and compare it across years, and decades.

It’s a bit like asking Covid nurses whether covid cases nationwide are going up or down…they’re not going to know based on their ward in their hospital. They’d have to look up the NHS level reports to ONS to tell you.

It's the opposite of part of a picture

With things like this there is a single source of truth fortunately

I don't thing asking partners of police officers is a good idea either tbh, their experience by proxy is no better than hearsay.

A know all wife cropped up on a thread the other day to declare that most victims of DV are lying because so many go back to their abuser, like so many don't attempt to leave multiple times before they break for good.

I disagree.

I had a quick read through of the stats as helpfully sent by a poster above

It showed that there had indeed been a rise in domestic and sexual offences. But it also stated that the report still didn't know whether there had been a rise in these types of offences or whether it was due to other factors, such as better reporting.

I think asking those who are on the front line, even though their experiences are on a local level, will help to get a truer picture of the reality. Get enough of them and obviously it would be far more useful.

Anyway, I just posted to hear some experiences and thoughts from those dealing with the things happening. There's alot numbers don't tell us.

Every now and again, the tabloids go into a phase of reporting on basically every single stabbing in London. Eventually they get bored and move onto a different subject. Did the stabbings stop? No, you just stopped hearing about them. Your perception of the amount of crime will be influenced by the way the media reports it.

I've definitely noticed an increase in violence across the board, more so since we came out of lockdown. It's like people have forgotten how to behave themselves properly. I can only see it getting worse.

I read something interesting a month or so ago, apparently the summer months are slow news months so things such as these are reported more than other months, so that may be why....

But not in violence….