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Icecreamandapplepie · 04/09/2022 18:11

Are violent offences in the area you work on the rise? Particularly when it comes to younger people?
Also violent offences within domestic settings?
Paramedics, and anyone else on the front line's opinion welcome also.

They certainly seem to be, with very recent news stories and accompanying footage, particularly in London.

Another (absolutely horrific) report today of a teenager and her 8 year old twin siblings being killed by a man in his twenties, known to them, at home.

I'm very interested to hear from those on the ground as to what the situation actually is. If these things are increasing in frequency and/ or severity, do you have any theories as to why.

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nutellachurro · 04/09/2022 19:38

Icecreamandapplepie · 04/09/2022 19:18

I disagree.

I had a quick read through of the stats as helpfully sent by a poster above

It showed that there had indeed been a rise in domestic and sexual offences. But it also stated that the report still didn't know whether there had been a rise in these types of offences or whether it was due to other factors, such as better reporting.

I think asking those who are on the front line, even though their experiences are on a local level, will help to get a truer picture of the reality. Get enough of them and obviously it would be far more useful.

Anyway, I just posted to hear some experiences and thoughts from those dealing with the things happening. There's alot numbers don't tell us.

But it won't get a truer picture

Violent crimes are down YoY

Maybe your ability to interpret data is the issue here over lack of anecdotal evidence

sparks99 · 04/09/2022 19:39

Brigante9 · 04/09/2022 18:32

It’s always been this bad but is far more publicised these days and online/social media gets a lot of ‘footfall’. I don’t think there has been a massive increase in violent incidents although during lockdown the amount of domestic violence, often fuelled by booze, hugely shot up (married to a police officer)

I agree. I am in emergency services and I too believe it's all in the way it's reported

LittleFluffyCloudz · 04/09/2022 19:40

Another (absolutely horrific) report today of a teenager and her 8 year old twin siblings being killed by a man in his twenties, known to them, at home.

The killing in Dublin? Are you asking globally or Ireland?

sparks99 · 04/09/2022 19:40

Posted too soon. Should also have said that domestic abuse incidents and child safeguarding incidents had a huge increase during lockdown

YorkshireLass81 · 04/09/2022 19:41

I work in Safeguarding and DH in the police. Yes, crimes have definitely changed in the last 10 years. In my experience a huge rise in the Incel network, lots of angry men determined to hurt women by any means necessary. Lots of young women suffering from trauma, unable to engage with traditional mh services, chaotic lifestyles etc.

Discovereads · 04/09/2022 19:44

I just posted to hear some experiences and thoughts from those dealing with the things happening. There's alot numbers don't tell us.

Ah, so you want gory details of violent crimes. Knew you weren’t interested in actual statistics. Suggest you watch some true crime TV then.

luckylavender · 04/09/2022 19:50

Icecreamandapplepie · 04/09/2022 18:11

Are violent offences in the area you work on the rise? Particularly when it comes to younger people?
Also violent offences within domestic settings?
Paramedics, and anyone else on the front line's opinion welcome also.

They certainly seem to be, with very recent news stories and accompanying footage, particularly in London.

Another (absolutely horrific) report today of a teenager and her 8 year old twin siblings being killed by a man in his twenties, known to them, at home.

I'm very interested to hear from those on the ground as to what the situation actually is. If these things are increasing in frequency and/ or severity, do you have any theories as to why.

The incident you mention wasn't in London

Icecreamandapplepie · 04/09/2022 19:52

The police recorded stats say otherwise. Apparently (ONS says) this data is more useful to see patterns for the most violent offences, which are relatively rare.

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Icecreamandapplepie · 04/09/2022 19:52

@Discovereads

Where did I say that? Look at my op to see what I was asking about

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Icecreamandapplepie · 04/09/2022 19:53

@luckylavender

I know! Read the thread...

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Icecreamandapplepie · 04/09/2022 19:54

@nutellachurro

Yes, I'm a very dense person.

Thanks for enlightening me!

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Icecreamandapplepie · 04/09/2022 19:55

Thankyou to those on the frontline who have given their opinions.

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