Fuel bills / incomming pm/ hysteria

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I have this idea( hope)! That we are being whipped into huge fear levels and hyteria re bills.. and that this is deliberate in part, because then if the new pm comes in and actually helps with this , to any degree, they will be hailed as a public hero... gaining favour and distracting from other issues.
I do wonder if we are being played ? Maybe its just a hope in one way re bills.

You really think the government are clever enought to strategise this?
They're thick as mince the lot of em

Well, am.not sure . Its the idea of social control .

I’ve heard this before and they will essentially defer of October’s rise to be spread out over years. We all breathe massive sigh of relief and struggle on gratefully with the much higher bills we already have forevermore.

It wouldn’t surprise me to be honest and Id still be grateful as right now I’m not sure how I’ll manage.

I think over the last few years we’ve seen a rise in public manipulation by politicians. Who knew the truth was so subjective?

I think this will be the case too. They'll swoop in as some sort of 'hero' to sway public opinion.

Nah

No I really don’t think that’s true, as much as people want to believe that it is.

A lot of them work to their own agenda, but tbh that has ever been thus with all politicians. But I really don’t understand where this notion comes from that they’re just thick.

And if that were the case then that doesn’t say much for the electorate who voted for them.

Social control? Really?

I meant they're not intelligent enough to run conspiracy theories alongside running the country.

Unless of course they want us to think that as part of the conspiracy

God knows what they’ll do but they can’t have people paying £1 per kwh for Electricity, so they will have to do something.

Even business owning Tories won’t stomach the price rises, neither will shareholders in supermarkets etc. if it affects profits, they wont stand for it.
Can you imagine the electricity bill for even one large supermarket?

Metabigot · it’s not a conspiracy though. It’s obvious that the reason why Boris resigned when he did and the reason why his party turned against him was because the Tory party’s popularity had reduced significantly enough that they were unlikely to win the next election.

They had to find a new leader, and it was always going to be the case that that new leader would bring in some policies which would improve their standing as a party.

And while I don’t think they planned the energy crisis, I absolutely do think that the energy crisis has come at a convenient time for the new prime minister to make themselves popular by bringing in policies to combat it.

I didnt support the govt nonsense covid rules, and I cannot support their current silence on the energy crisis.

I now find myself politically homeless.

Rishi Sunak was popular when he was giving out the furlough payments that didn't last long. The Government have to do something they really don't have a choice.

I don't think we are being played.

However, I think Boris Johnson would not have resigned if there was not a cost of living crisis, especially not one on energy costs. It is not the first time he has walked away from something to leave a woman to organise clearing up the mess though.

I don't think any help will be coming for individuals of working age and not on benefits.
People are in for a shock I think and Rishi Sunak has already said it. I cannot help everyone.

If this is the case then it's incredibly cruel.

Some people's mental health is being seriously impacted, small businesses are already closing simply because they can't afford fuel bills.

Listen to what they say. The current lot of senior Tories are not bright. Compare them with the now retired Tories of 20/30 years ago (ie not IDS - he has never been the brightest lamp in the street). Always ghastly politics but this lot don’t even understand the issues. They’re a bunch of ideologues - not really capable of flexible thinking.

I’m not expecting any help, but I do think they are adding to hysteria by neither candidate outlining their plans of any relief. Maybe because there aren’t any, I don’t know. I’ve just been told my DDebit will double from 325 to 650, so my own hysteria is through the roof, and the radio silence from either candidate on any solid help is deafening. The suspense is killing me now but deep down I know that no help is coming. We are a small family and out of the house most days as both parents work full time. I just don’t know where the number even comes from. We can survive the October rise, maybe hang on through January but April is predicted at over 1k so we are screwed.

we have a wood burner so planning to use only that for heat if possible, but that won’t stop them automatically raising the DD.

I'd probably buy into that theory if we weren't pegged for Liz Truss to takeover.

She just doesn't have the intelligence to pull that off - neither do I think to act enough to trick us.

I just think they are incompetent and seem to think we want a right wing government and cannot accept that Brexit didn't indicate that.

And was still pretty split 50/50.

We have it. It needs to be sorted. That's democracy.

But they didn't account - imo - for the fact the country wouldn't like things such as tax cuts for the rich and sending immigrants to Rwanda.

They've misjudged the mood of the whole 68 million and in true Tory style can't admit they are wrong and apologise. Therefore they can never get - or put - it right

The energy crisis is occurring internationally, although it is particularly dire in Europe. As much as i dislike the Tory Party they have not engeneered this on purpose. Certain political decisions have definitely made the crisis worse for the UK (e.g. closing down gas storage facilities in 2017). The UK is also far more reliant on gas than many neighbouring countries, with Russia cutting of supplies there just isn't enough to meet the current continental demand.

The difference between the UK and other European countries is the level of support being offered to citizens and businesses. We'll have to see what the new PM announces, but the panic stems from a lack of clarity.

Changes to energy and gas use will need to happen though.

Women can make pretty incompetent politicians too, you know.

I actually think you're right to an extent OP. Look at what happened with Brexit. No one wanted the PM job when it all had to be thrashed out. Then when May went, suddenly Bojo swooped in to 'get Brexit done'.

That being said, I'm not sure what a Tory PM could or would do to actually fix the problems. They are all for a free market economy, but free market forces and policies can't dig you out of a hole caused by a war.

You mean you genuinely can’t grok the British gov’t trying to control narratives on things? Like, say, trying to get traction on outlawing encryption and VPNs because criminals also use them?

Nah, definitively not something our Parliament would want.

@benning I’d say that May’s Brexit was competently done, just no one wanted it because no one could define what Brexit actually
means. But for every Theresa, there is a Priti…

Yea, yes, yes. The majority of the fucking world is chowing down on high interest rates and lack of affordable fuel just so Liz can have a party at number 10. 🙄

I’d say that May’s Brexit was competently done, just no one wanted it because no one could define what Brexit actually
means. But for every Theresa, there is a Priti…

What I wouldn’t give to have May back now.

I think you’re on the right track but overestimating the intelligence of the incumbent government.

We certainly aren’t being whipped into a frenzy, this is a good example of the media doing its job in reporting correctly and accurately the pressures facing millions.