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To tell you a bit about Hedgehogs?

273 replies

Halstead · 01/09/2022 19:24

There was a thread very recently, asking for ‘controversial opinions’. It got zapped really quickly.

One posters completely nonsense controversial opinion was that ‘Hedgehogs are flea ridden vermin’

I rescue Hedgehogs. I therefore think I’m being completely reasonable in stating Hedgehogs normally only have fleas when they are suffering from a wider illness. Of the ones we rescue each year, perhaps 1 in 5 have fleas (easily treated but NEVER with cat/dog flea treatment as the active ingredient is lethal to hedgehogs).

I also think I’m not being unreasonable when I tell you Hedgehog fleas are host specific. They aren’t the same type of fleas that invade cats and dogs, and they don’t bite humans, so you don’t need to worry about Hedgehog fleas invading your house and living in your carpets should you come across these critters in your back garden.

Hedgehogs really are in serious trouble at the moment. If they continue to decline at current rates, it’s predicted they’ll be extinct in the UK by 2025.

The current weather really isn’t helping. The hard ground means their main food source (beetles, caterpillars) are very hard to come by. Contrary to popular opinion, Hedgehogs shouldn’t (and don’t generally) eat slugs. If they do, it usually means they’re starving. Slugs often given them illnesses like lung worm and fluke which can be fatal to hogs. It really isn’t a pleasant death, either.

So… AIBU to tell you about about Hogs?... and ask you to pop out water and… if you can… something like kitten biscuit (high protein, low cereal, no milk variety) for our spiney friends? They would very much appreciate it.

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goherbie · 01/09/2022 21:26

Thanks @Halstead I'll try those brands.

TwoMonthsOff · 01/09/2022 21:26

@BringBackCoffeeCreams
12 ?????? Oh my days

TheABC · 01/09/2022 21:31

Literally just read this thread and DH called me to the back door to see a hedgehog sitting on our mat sheltering from the rain and looking disgruntled. I stuck down some of our cat biscuit, it had a nibble, a sniffle and shuffled off.

Didn't look at all fussed by the humans squeeing at it.

TwoMonthsOff · 01/09/2022 21:43

@TheABC
is this the first time you have seen your hedgehog ….? Now you know you will have to leave dinner every night don’t you 🥰

Athenajm80 · 01/09/2022 21:57

I live in a city, in a terraced house with back to back gardens. My garden is -overgrown- carefully cultivated to be a meadow garden. Do you think I'm likely to be able to get hedgehogs? I'm more than happy to put things out for them but didn't know if there was any point.

As an aside, my mum's favourite animal was the hedgehog. One of my only memories of her was her stopping the car every time we went near a cattle grid so she could check there were no stuck hogs. Weirdly a while after she was buried, the vicar spoke to my grandparents and said they realised there was a hedgehog run where mum's grave is which may get disturbed . Looking back now, I realise that doesn't really make sense. At the time I think I just assumed it was underground but hedgehogs don't tunnel like moles and rabbits do. Dammit, I have repeated that story several times and only just realised there must be some misunderstanding somewhere!

Confusedmeanderings · 01/09/2022 22:01

We have a hedgehog that has taken up residence in our kitchen. We have been blaming our young cat for making a mess when eating his kitten biscuits. We walked into the kitchen a couple of nights ago and there was the hedgehog tucking in. It was quite at home and I think has been visiting for a while. Our back door is always open, even at night, so it comes and goes as it chooses!

SallyWD · 01/09/2022 22:08

Thank you for that. I had no idea that hedgehogs got fleas or that people didn't like them because of it! I love them. We had one in our garden that looked small so I started putting cat biscuits out. I soon came to realise that the neighbourhood cats were appearing each night and eating it all! I do wonder about this advice to give them cat biscuits as I suspect cats eat most of it!

Ted27 · 01/09/2022 22:14

@Athenajm80

I live in a city, in a terrace with back to back gardens. I have occasionally seen a hog scuttling down the road at night

HellsAngel81 · 01/09/2022 22:19

I'm a big hedgehog fan too! In work, we sadly get quite a lot come through our doors (I'm a vet nurse), and they are one of my favourite patients. I LOVE the sound they make when they are crunching away on their kibble 😁

Eaumyword · 01/09/2022 22:22

I felt like a complete voyeur last year when I watched our resident Mr and Mrs Hedgehog at it for an impressive 15 odd mins. Except, Mrs hog kept getting really bored/forgetting what was happening and shuffling forwards.
Mr hog seemed unperturbed and gamely did his best.
The noises were hilarious - very loud and snorty.
Not sure if they finished what they were doing or gave up and went for an all you can eat buffet instead round our garden.
I haven't seen them this year ☹

CrystalCoco · 01/09/2022 22:27

hello! Since I came across the last thread on hogs I've been leaving out fresh water daily (which my cat thinks is for him, fair enough - he is the centre of the universe after all!) so just wondering what food I could leave for the hedgehogs that cats wouldn't be interested in - I know for sure if I leave kitten kibble it'll be my feline friend who will swipe it! Thanks.

GCAcademic · 01/09/2022 22:32

CrystalCoco · 01/09/2022 22:27

hello! Since I came across the last thread on hogs I've been leaving out fresh water daily (which my cat thinks is for him, fair enough - he is the centre of the universe after all!) so just wondering what food I could leave for the hedgehogs that cats wouldn't be interested in - I know for sure if I leave kitten kibble it'll be my feline friend who will swipe it! Thanks.

You need to create a feeding station that cats can’t get into:

YesitsBess · 01/09/2022 23:05

Ahhhhhh! My favourite hog guru! I haven't RTFT yet but have you put the log your hog info on yet?

Also ours are fighting over a hitherto unsuspected baguette. So there's that.

SellFridges · 01/09/2022 23:11

We had a large one in our kitchen one evening a few weeks ago when it was warm. We had no idea where it had come from, and we have a cat who we wanted to protect it from, so DH took it to a hedgerow down the street. We’ve been worried we did the wrong thing, but we couldn’t leave it in the garden with so many cats and foxes around. Any advice if it happens again?

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 01/09/2022 23:27

FlamingoQueen · 01/09/2022 21:13

I was going to build a little hedgehog house behind my garage - should I buy a house or can I rustle one together or is it just a daft idea please?
Is now the right time of year to do it?
Thank you

Hey @FlamingoQueen 😍

So, buying a hedgehog house will probably be better, as they are kind of purpose built. I have 3 of the ones in PIC 1. ('igloo' design.) You can buy them online for £25 to £35, but I got 2 of mine at Aldi for a tenner each! Some pet shops may stock them cheaper too, or some other type of hedgehog house. The ones I get last around 3 years before they degrade. I replaced all 3 this year.

I put lots of hay, and ripped up cardboard and dried leaves in them for their bedding. Leave a plastic tub on its side near to the house with extra supplies of these items in so they can take more if they wish. Pop the hedgehog house away from any artificial light, or roads or public pathways. Ideally in your back garden, in or near a hedge. Make sure they can get out of the garden. If you have a solid fence, make sure you carve a small hedgehog sized hole in the bottom so they have a way out.

It's the perfect time to do it now!!! In a few weeks the hedgehogs will be starting to make their 'winter hibernation' homes, and having a ready made home with lots of 'supplies' for their winter bedding will please them no end! Grin

Also, a small flat shallow saucer (like one you use for plant pots to put the water in - in PIC 2,) is good for water, and a small flat bowl for food. A cat proof hedgehog feeder is handy too. You can make one with ordinary housebricks and a slab. (PIC 3.) Have an entrance and an exit, so if one hedgehog is in there, they can shoot out if another one comes in, as they don't always get on, and are quite territorial! I have seen hedgehogs run at other hedgehogs and boot them out of the way to get to a food bowl!

Happy hedgehogging! 🦔 (I know that's probably not a word.) Grin God bless you for thinking about them.

To tell you a bit about Hedgehogs?
To tell you a bit about Hedgehogs?
To tell you a bit about Hedgehogs?
TwoMonthsOff · 01/09/2022 23:46

@WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps
‘hedgehogging’ is legitimately a word
you are so caring ❤️

TwoMonthsOff · 01/09/2022 23:49

@WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps
the 3rd photo …so cute ❤️

Viggooooh · 01/09/2022 23:50

I did see a hedgehog a few years ago in our front garden so I'd like to feed if possible but worried about rats. Presumably the food would encourage rats as well (which are a problem in our area)

Crankley · 01/09/2022 23:52

I cater for the hedgehogs who visit my garden. What do I get in return - hedghog poo on my patio which the flies swarm to like it's nectar lol.

Moonchild18 · 02/09/2022 00:06

Ah thank you for this! We've actually just seen our very first hedgehog here tonight, we've lived in this house for 15 years and have never come across one. I actually went inside to find it something to eat and drink and grab my daughter to show her but it had gone by the time we'd gone back out. I shall leave some of the food/drink out you've mentioned incase it comes back this way.

TheUsualChaos · 02/09/2022 00:13

Yes definitely, they are quite habitual so you will often see them at a similar time each night, especially when they learn you put food out.

PickAChew · 02/09/2022 00:37

We have a couple of hogs, this year - a small but otherwise robust one and a massive one that normally feeds in a neighbor's garden but will squeeze through into our garden, if hungry. We feed them the Sainsburys kitten food.

Unfortunately, a rather persistent and hyperactive rat has joined them, this week, and scoffs all the food. We watched on the cctv, last night, and they froze while it ran rings around them. Going to try some peppermint oil to see if it puts ratty off. If that doesn't work, we will have to trap it to give them a chance. DH has built a platform that the chogs can't climb up on, just in case it comes to that.

Jux · 02/09/2022 00:51

Can hedgehogs climb? I'd love to have hedgehogs but I doubt they can get in or out of our garden which is walled on all sides, the walls extend a few feet underground. I'm afraid that our wildlife haven (ie completely out of control garden) will never see a hog.

Booklover3 · 02/09/2022 01:24

Think one or two live in the bush at the end of my garden. I caught my dog following one around the garden several nights now. She was literally just watching it as it went about it’s business. It looked quite a good size and healthy (as far as I could tell). We’ve always had hedgehogs as far as I can remember. Sometimes they make quite a racket in the garden actually lol.

Ive literally been following my dog around the garden at night now and restricting her access. She seems like she wants to be friends with it but you never know do you? Also worried the hedgehog could make her poorly some how?

Id also be quite upset if the dog did hurt it to be honest. Lovely little things.

Booklover3 · 02/09/2022 01:25

^^ hedgehog also completely not bothered about the dog. It didn’t even roll up into a ball. Quite sassy actually :D