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Accused of lying about DS health. WWYD?

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Accuse · 01/09/2022 14:01

In December 2020, DS (18mo at the time) suddenly had some odd symptoms come on one day at nursery. They advised we see a professional as soon as possible. When we got to our appointment the next day, they didn’t even get him inside the room - they saw him and said to immediately take him to A&E because it looked like a brain tumour. DS was admitted to hospital, had a whole host of tests and was in for over two weeks in the end. It took another two weeks to get him cleared of a brain tumour and find out what it was.

His condition, although minor, requires daily treatment and will be with him for the rest of his life. He’ll be fine, the condition isn’t life limiting but it is a pain to manage and his equipment is expensive. We have appointments at the hospital every few months to monitor him.

Even though it turned out ok, it was a really awful time. We were left not knowing whether he had a brain tumour or not over Christmas. We had no family or friends to support us because we were in Tier 4. We were being assessed to foster/adopt a relative on DH’s side after a death in his family which we knew would be jeopardised too. The hospital only allowed one parent at a time into the hospital and didn’t allow us to leave him alone, because of Covid they had a one-way system so the entrance and exit didn’t cross paths so DH didn’t see each other face-to-face for a single second in two weeks. DS wasn’t allowed to leave his hospital bay and so he was bored and frustrated (and boiling hot) the whole time. It was just fucking awful for all of us - it was one of the worst things we’ve ever been through.

When we were waiting in A&E on that first day, I messaged my family in our group chat to let them know. A lot of my family live abroad in different countries so this tends to be how we communicate (because phone calls are tricky with time difference). From then on, DH or I send through updates if/when we got them. After DS was moved onto ambulatory care (after the first two weeks), we struggled to get any update on results from the hospital and the ward never answered the phone. During this time, my mum offered to phone them for us in the chat and I (probably a bit rudely because I was stressed to hell) said that if they don’t answer the phone to us then they won’t answer to her either and that, even if they do answer, they can’t tell her anything anyway because it’s a breach of confidentiality.

I’ve just found out that my brother was telling other relatives that DH and I were making it up. I was “suspiciously calm” at the start and then I was “suspiciously defensive” and “secretive” when I told my mum not to call them. I looked back at my messages from my brother at the time and what I thought were supportive and interested messages are very clearly (now) just trying to catch me out. Things like asking what certain medical terms mean or what different scans/tests are for, saying “I’ve never heard of X before” etc.

I’m so upset and angry with my brother for not only thinking that about me and DH but also for telling other people. He had absolutely no reason to think we’re lying - we’ve never about anything else and don’t have any kind of reputation or form for lying. DS had never been in hospital before or since with any other condition. Part of me wants to confront my brother but I know it’ll cause huge issues if I do and I also know this was years ago (and he surely must believe us now, given how obvious it is that DS has the condition and his medical equipment that my brother sees him use).

I am so hurt and DH is so angry. What would you do?

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Tigofigo · 01/09/2022 14:04

How did you find out?

I'd have to confront him. Not angrily, but I think it will eat away at you.

Annaritanna · 01/09/2022 14:07

I would speak to him because i could not ignore this on the long run.
Are they aware of the official diagnosis and work you do for your kid day in day out?

FartOutLoudDay · 01/09/2022 14:08

Assuming you have concrete evidence that he doubted you and not just hearsay, I think I’d have to bring it up too. Just to say how hurt you were that he was questioning the truth of your DS’s poor health at what was such a horrible time for you all. I don’t think you need to say much more than that - the ball is then in his court to either apologise (or possibly more likely go on the defensive because he’s been caught out).

EscapeRoomToTheSun · 01/09/2022 14:10

I wouldn't be able to keep quiet about this

FrankLampardsBrokenHand · 01/09/2022 14:11

Nothing because it would have no bearing on anything. You can choose to get riled up over something that has happened and passed, or you can understand that as somebody removed from the situation physically, and only knowing the bits of information you provided, where there's gaps people often try to fill them.

AmbushedByCake1 · 01/09/2022 14:18

Who told you this information?

Lindy2 · 01/09/2022 14:21

I'd ask him. You don't want to always be unsure about what happened, especially if it's only second hand information and you have no actual definite proof.

With my brother I'd have no problem saying something like "x said you didn't think DS was really in hospital last year - what's all that about?"

We do communicate pretty freely though and I couldn't imagine not asking him about something like that.

I hope your DS is doing OK.

IntegrityisDead · 01/09/2022 14:23

Sometimes when people are faced with life shattering information they cannot take it on board at that time and quite literally follow any other theory no matter how bizarre as they are unable to accept what is (may be) true.

Later they may deny having ever felt/thought that way and genuinely believe they did not. It is a self-protective belief.

Is there any chance this could be what happened to your brother? It is often people with lower emotional resilience and it seems to provide a temporary protection in that they can channel their out of control emotions into disproving something and avoid some kind of emotional catastrophe...... It's really not anything personal to you

Sunnyqueen · 01/09/2022 14:31

I would call him out on it

Starlight86 · 01/09/2022 14:37

Call him out.

Not only will it make you feel alot better, you also quite literally have any proof he requires with hospital app letters and equipment.

On another note seems strange of your brother, do you have a strained relationship before this happened?

Hankunamatata · 01/09/2022 14:44

Would you trust this relation? Why ar they telling u this now after years?

MrsAvocet · 01/09/2022 14:49

I can empathise OP. One of my children has a rare condition which if managed properly doesn't prevent him from doing anything at all really, but if left can be very serious. He has to stick to strict diet and I am sure that lots of people, including some fairly close family members, think I am making it all up, or at least exaggerating. I've lost count of the number if times people tell me they've never heard of his condition, most of the time with the definite inference that if they've never heard of it it can't be real. When he was younger there were some people who tried to feed him things he can't eat. The excuse was always "we forgot" or "we didn't realise he couldn't have X" but I strongly suspect there was an element of testing their theory that there was nothing wrong.
It's very frustrating, but I soon discovered it was an argument I couldn't really win so learned to let it go over my head and to just focus on taking the best care of DS.
I totally understand why you are angry with your brother but I would ask yourself very carefully what confronting him would achieve. He must know he was wrong by now so hopefully has learned a lesson there. Of course it would be nice if you could have a calm discussion with him and he apologised, but suppose that doesn't happen - is the potential fall out worth it to you? Only you know the answer to that. Some things are hills worth dying on, but other times it's best to know that you have the moral high ground but to let things go, for the greater good.

MyneighbourisTotoro · 01/09/2022 14:50

How awful for you all, personally I’d have to confront him otherwise I’d end up blowing up over it which would lead to more friction.
Do you have a strained relationship with your brother or has he done this sort of thing in the past before?

Soontobe60 · 01/09/2022 15:00

What are his reasons for thinking this is a fabricated illness? What is your son’s diagnosis? Has your brother seen your son since his diagnosis? Who told you what your brother has been saying?

Rosehugger · 01/09/2022 15:04

God, this is awful. I'd be absolutely livid and would be giving him the bollocking of his life after checking his version of events of course. You been through a really tough time, the very last thing you need is a close relatve accusing you of making shit up! FFS.

Rosehugger · 01/09/2022 15:06

And it's not "years ago", December 2020 is very recent.

NiqueNique · 01/09/2022 15:08

I’d be livid. And I absolutely would confront him. Frankly I wouldn’t give one tiny little fuck whether it would cause huge issues.

I’m sorry that he did such a shitty thing and I’m sorry you had to cope with such a rough situation at such a difficult time. Flowers

PinkyFlamingo · 01/09/2022 15:16

Of course you need to day something otherwise it will build up inside you.

ZandathePanda · 01/09/2022 15:21

send this to the family group ‘it has come to my attention that some people to not believe our son has (the condition). This is cruel to think we could lie about a medical matter concerning our son’s life. If you want to see evidence of hospital stays, medication, medical letters etc we can show you. But hopefully you have more dignity and remorse than that’.

NumberTheory · 01/09/2022 15:23

I would be really hurt that a family member jumped to that conclusion on the basis you’ve given. But I think other posters are right that you need to consider that you aren’t getting the whole picture now. You should start by considering how you found this out - if someone told you, why, do they have form for creating conflict or putting a spin on things or misreading situations, etc. and why have they told you now and not before? Did they challenge him at the time? They may have been eaten up with guilt or concern about it, not wanted to cause you more stress at the time but eventually felt they had to tell you. Or they may just be looking for ways to cause drama. You see your brother’s messages to you in a different light now, but they may have been intended the way you originally thought.

Assuming it’s true, even then it’s not totally clear cut. He could have been seriously pushing the narrative that you were lying and trying to get others to be less supportive of you or he could have made a joke in poor taste trying to use black humour as a coping mechanism in a passing comment. Or, as other’s have said, he may have been struggling to accept the possibility his tiny nephew might have a brain tumour.

If you have previously had a reasonable relationship with your brother I’d sit down and talk with him and reassess from there. Maybe it makes your relationship stronger, maybe you chill things, maybe you cut him off. But I’d listen to what he has to say. If your brother has form for being a bit shitty to you, I wouldn’t bother talking to him, I’d tell your parents you’ve found out he was spreading vile lies about you and undermining you when you needed support the most and that you won’t be having anything more to do with him. Then I’d not make a single effort to contact him, I’d only see him if he happened to be at family gatherings and then I’d be cool civil. You can’t change other people, just remove yourself from their orbit.

NumberTheory · 01/09/2022 15:24

ZandathePanda · 01/09/2022 15:21

send this to the family group ‘it has come to my attention that some people to not believe our son has (the condition). This is cruel to think we could lie about a medical matter concerning our son’s life. If you want to see evidence of hospital stays, medication, medical letters etc we can show you. But hopefully you have more dignity and remorse than that’.

There’s not much point in this when OP says he clearly believes them now.

DowntonCrabby · 01/09/2022 15:27

YANBU to be angry, your brother sounds like a shit stirring prick.

I’d quietly disengage from him, don’t update anyone/ everyone as standard, let parents and genuinely supportive family and friends know if they ask. You’ve obviously got a lot going on with you DS, don’t let this become another thing to have to manage, ‘D’B is not worth it.

MercurialMonday · 01/09/2022 15:32

I say same as MrsAvocet - I've had similar with mild common food reactions, eczema triggers and later asthma all of which were in the family anyway.

People do seem to think they know better or listen to the woo pushers in their social group.

FIL the most difficult finally improved when his brother in mid serious asthma attack was blue lighted to hospital he shared his malingering not that bad views with paramedic and A & E doctor - who very publicly handed him his arse and finally got through to him - made my life easier but nothing before made any difference.

BobDear · 01/09/2022 15:32

yeah fuck that, I know it's a couple of years ago but I think i would just do a current 'update' on the family group.

Hope you all had a lovely summer. (Insert family news here) and DS doing really well with his treatment - which is probably no surprise seeing as his condition is apparently, according to (insert brother name), made up!. Hope everyone is well. Catch up soon.

Or something
I wouldn't be able to resist
I can almost imagine the rage I would feel.

Thelnebriati · 01/09/2022 15:35

I think I'd have to say something to him 'I’ve just heard on the grapevine that you think DH and I were making it up. If its true, do you still believe that?''

If it turns out to be true I'd find that hard to forgive without a genuine apology.