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Accused of lying about DS health. WWYD?

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Accuse · 01/09/2022 14:01

In December 2020, DS (18mo at the time) suddenly had some odd symptoms come on one day at nursery. They advised we see a professional as soon as possible. When we got to our appointment the next day, they didn’t even get him inside the room - they saw him and said to immediately take him to A&E because it looked like a brain tumour. DS was admitted to hospital, had a whole host of tests and was in for over two weeks in the end. It took another two weeks to get him cleared of a brain tumour and find out what it was.

His condition, although minor, requires daily treatment and will be with him for the rest of his life. He’ll be fine, the condition isn’t life limiting but it is a pain to manage and his equipment is expensive. We have appointments at the hospital every few months to monitor him.

Even though it turned out ok, it was a really awful time. We were left not knowing whether he had a brain tumour or not over Christmas. We had no family or friends to support us because we were in Tier 4. We were being assessed to foster/adopt a relative on DH’s side after a death in his family which we knew would be jeopardised too. The hospital only allowed one parent at a time into the hospital and didn’t allow us to leave him alone, because of Covid they had a one-way system so the entrance and exit didn’t cross paths so DH didn’t see each other face-to-face for a single second in two weeks. DS wasn’t allowed to leave his hospital bay and so he was bored and frustrated (and boiling hot) the whole time. It was just fucking awful for all of us - it was one of the worst things we’ve ever been through.

When we were waiting in A&E on that first day, I messaged my family in our group chat to let them know. A lot of my family live abroad in different countries so this tends to be how we communicate (because phone calls are tricky with time difference). From then on, DH or I send through updates if/when we got them. After DS was moved onto ambulatory care (after the first two weeks), we struggled to get any update on results from the hospital and the ward never answered the phone. During this time, my mum offered to phone them for us in the chat and I (probably a bit rudely because I was stressed to hell) said that if they don’t answer the phone to us then they won’t answer to her either and that, even if they do answer, they can’t tell her anything anyway because it’s a breach of confidentiality.

I’ve just found out that my brother was telling other relatives that DH and I were making it up. I was “suspiciously calm” at the start and then I was “suspiciously defensive” and “secretive” when I told my mum not to call them. I looked back at my messages from my brother at the time and what I thought were supportive and interested messages are very clearly (now) just trying to catch me out. Things like asking what certain medical terms mean or what different scans/tests are for, saying “I’ve never heard of X before” etc.

I’m so upset and angry with my brother for not only thinking that about me and DH but also for telling other people. He had absolutely no reason to think we’re lying - we’ve never about anything else and don’t have any kind of reputation or form for lying. DS had never been in hospital before or since with any other condition. Part of me wants to confront my brother but I know it’ll cause huge issues if I do and I also know this was years ago (and he surely must believe us now, given how obvious it is that DS has the condition and his medical equipment that my brother sees him use).

I am so hurt and DH is so angry. What would you do?

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Lunabun · 01/09/2022 15:36

BobDear · 01/09/2022 15:32

yeah fuck that, I know it's a couple of years ago but I think i would just do a current 'update' on the family group.

Hope you all had a lovely summer. (Insert family news here) and DS doing really well with his treatment - which is probably no surprise seeing as his condition is apparently, according to (insert brother name), made up!. Hope everyone is well. Catch up soon.

Or something
I wouldn't be able to resist
I can almost imagine the rage I would feel.

Oh yes absolutely this.

I don't know whether it's the most mature thing to do and it will no doubt cause a few issues. But I would do it, sorry 😬 would not be able to resist, and I'd have no regrets either

Novum · 01/09/2022 15:38

Just ask him calmly whether he really said that, if so why, and whether he has told the people concerned that you obviously weren't lying.

Zonder · 01/09/2022 15:44

Wow I hope everyone else told him to shut up.

TheOriginalClownfish · 01/09/2022 15:59

Look, he didn't believe initially, but does now.

Whoever told you this - consider their motives for telling you, now. Do they have form for shitstirring? And if so, I'd not give them the satisfaction of causing a rift or a row which is clearly their intention.

Anyway, if it was my brother, I think I'd be hurt just as much as you, but I would give him the chance in a private conversation to explain what he was thinking then and now first - and then you can hand him his arse.

endoNO · 01/09/2022 16:01

More importantly, how did everyone else in your family react when your brother was saying this? Did they defend you? Believe him? Add to the gossip?

Why are you only hearing about it now and who told you?

I read a meme l (lol) once that always sticks with me

" don't tell me what they said about me, tell me why they felt comfortable enough to say it around you"

OriginalUsername2 · 01/09/2022 16:04

endoNO · 01/09/2022 16:01

More importantly, how did everyone else in your family react when your brother was saying this? Did they defend you? Believe him? Add to the gossip?

Why are you only hearing about it now and who told you?

I read a meme l (lol) once that always sticks with me

" don't tell me what they said about me, tell me why they felt comfortable enough to say it around you"

" don't tell me what they said about me, tell me why they felt comfortable enough to say it around you"

Oh wow! That’s actually useful to me right now. Thank you 🙏 (Not sarcasm)

ZandathePanda · 01/09/2022 16:30

NumberTheory · 01/09/2022 15:24

There’s not much point in this when OP says he clearly believes them now.

from reading the OP post it reads ‘he must surely believe us now…’ so addressing the brothers behaviour right at the beginning I think is still valid (though perhaps put it into the past tense) - especially as it is so obvious now that the OP wasn’t lying so shows the brother’s motives.

Christonabike37 · 01/09/2022 16:33

I'd have to say something, it doesn't matter when it was, for you it's just happened and it is horrible what he did. He needs to understand how hurtful that is.

Quarantino · 01/09/2022 16:39

I’ve just found out that my brother was telling other relatives that DH and I were making it up. I was “suspiciously calm” at the start and then I was “suspiciously defensive” and “secretive” when I told my mum not to call them

Both are shitty, but was he explicitly telling people it was made up - in effect, lying about your and your DS with no basis - or doing the former, i.e. strongly insinuating it?

If he was actually asserting it was made up, I would for sure have to cut him off for a bit after a bollocking.

If it was insinuations, I'd ask him to clarify to everyone that he was suspicious, and explain why (because he's a twat, presumably?) and that he's realised he was completely wrong and how sorry he is for making a terrible time even worse by not being honest.

A message like "I've just been made aware that DB has been lying about aspects of DS's illness. Much as I wish it was true, DS unfortunately has X condition and it's not something we can wish away" etc etc - might help to set things straight.

It's not at all the same, but I lost someone due to covid and had a family member saying it was all made up and a hoax and medical staff had been forced to lie, etc. He's so idiotic everyone just rolled their eyes but he'd have had an earful if he'd convinced anyone my friend's death wasn't real or due to Covid.

Quarantino · 01/09/2022 16:41

FrankLampardsBrokenHand · 01/09/2022 14:11

Nothing because it would have no bearing on anything. You can choose to get riled up over something that has happened and passed, or you can understand that as somebody removed from the situation physically, and only knowing the bits of information you provided, where there's gaps people often try to fill them.

When there are gaps in what someone's telling me, I don't assume that actually the opposite of everything they have said is true, and that they've been deliberately lying about all of it.

That is very much NOT "filling in gaps".

TheHouseElf · 01/09/2022 16:59

If it was me, I'd have it out with him the moment I got wind of it. How dare he accuse you of making something like that up about your child.

I'd do it openly and publicly too, so everyone on the WhatsApp group knew.

mycatisannoying · 01/09/2022 17:01

What a twat. Is he an attention seeker, who might have been pissed that it wasn't all about him? God, the absolute last thing you need from a family member Sad

user29 · 01/09/2022 17:58

It sounds like someone shitstirring
Just don't give it the headspace

ThisIsNotThePostYourLookingFor · 01/09/2022 18:11

I would confront him openly but it would eat away at me until I showed his true colours. It would be with a picture of ds and his equipment asking him if he still thinks your making it up

inchoff · 01/09/2022 18:14

Your family is weird

the only reasonable explanation from your brother is that he thinks lowly of you, that everything you say has to be taken with a pinch of salt. Or that he’s one of those weirdos who doesn’t believe in health issues or likes to one up people

Spanisheomellletttes · 01/09/2022 18:50

I don't know what to recommend, OP. It sounds incredibly hurtful. All I can relate is a story of confronting my sister about a similar situation to see if we could discuss it calmly and rationally, in order to salvage our relationship. She denied everything, which hurt more. This was a few years ago. I recently bought up something she had done and said which negatively impacted my husband, my children and I, and she deflected and denied again. I think our relationship is now over, and to be honest I am no longer sad about it but rather resigned.

All the very best, OP. Navigating family conflict, especially when living far apart, is tricky and wearing.

Firstawake · 01/09/2022 19:19

You could call him out.... If he ever genuinely thought any parent was fabricating illness of their child he should have reported it, rather than gossiped, this is a child protection issue is he not aware of his duty.

Novum · 01/09/2022 19:33

FrankLampardsBrokenHand · 01/09/2022 14:11

Nothing because it would have no bearing on anything. You can choose to get riled up over something that has happened and passed, or you can understand that as somebody removed from the situation physically, and only knowing the bits of information you provided, where there's gaps people often try to fill them.

If I were in that situation - i.e. feeling there were gaps in what my sibling was telling me in what was obviously an extremely stressful situation - I'd just keep quiet until I was in a position to fill in those gaps. I cannot imagine any situation in which my first reaction would be to go off and tell other people my sibling must be lying/exaggerating/making it up.

Whowhatwherewhenwhynow · 01/09/2022 19:40

I’d probably just bide my time, wait until the brother is with you while your son is using his medication/equipment and then say something like…..”and to think you told everyone we were lying about him being unwell” chuckle then walk off as if your not at all bothered but find it ridiculous.

Accuse · 01/09/2022 21:05

Sorry for the long time to respond. No one in the family told me or is trying to stir. A relative recently passed away recently and I’m dealing with some of their affairs. The relative used to send messages to my brother with all their logins and passwords and passcodes etc so that someone else had them and they wouldn’t forget them or be lost. My brother gave me the relative’s Facebook password so I could go through their messages for the rest of their account log ins because my brother didn’t have the time to search through for all the ones I needed. In looking through, I found the messages from my brother. So they weren’t taken out of context or a joke or a passing comment.

OP posts:
ThePumpkinPatch · 01/09/2022 21:35

Accuse · 01/09/2022 21:05

Sorry for the long time to respond. No one in the family told me or is trying to stir. A relative recently passed away recently and I’m dealing with some of their affairs. The relative used to send messages to my brother with all their logins and passwords and passcodes etc so that someone else had them and they wouldn’t forget them or be lost. My brother gave me the relative’s Facebook password so I could go through their messages for the rest of their account log ins because my brother didn’t have the time to search through for all the ones I needed. In looking through, I found the messages from my brother. So they weren’t taken out of context or a joke or a passing comment.

In that case OP - call him. Ask him precisely why and point out that you have concrete evidence right here so he cannot deny it!

Lindy2 · 02/09/2022 09:11

I'd say to him that you've seen the messages he sent about your DS.

He knows why you've seen them. Let him explain from there.

Magenta82 · 02/09/2022 09:16

What a horrible thing to go through, I'm glad your DS is doing well now.

I think I would tell your brother that while you were sorting things out you found tge messages he sent about your son's illness and see what he says. Hopefully he will regret them and apologise.

RecHarged · 02/09/2022 09:20

I got accused of FII (fabricated or induced illness) by the school a few years back . MIL thinks the same 🤦‍♀️

I just ignore everyone now absolute bunch of idiots judging me seemed like it was a ploy to not offer support if I could be discredited on everyones part

scary thing is I could have lost my dc

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