My energy bill will still quadruple even if I put a jumper on?

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AIBU to think that even if I participate in this weird new “wear warm clothes in wintertime” trend, shut doors, buy draught excluders, buy Oodies, buy thermal curtains, and buy a £300 air fryer my energy bill will still quadruple.

Especially as most people wete already doing all or some of that.

Nothing short of turning the heating off is going to make much difference is it?

(Although of course I'm trying.)

After all, the money saving expert himself, Martin Lewis, says this isn’t something individuals can fix on their own , and it would be pretty arrogant to think I know better than him.

The "Put a jumper on" advice doesn't help British businesses at all does it?

What do you think?

Children are dying as a result of the pollution in the uk

The number of children dying from pollution dropped during covid

Children will die from pollution and cold

You might not care that more children will die

Maybe the local news should do a segment explaining the difference between fixed tariffs and actual usage costs?

If you really believe that so many people are ignorant as to what sort of debt they're inadvertently getting themselves into, then perhaps even email the local news station and suggest this!

As funny as human stupidity can be when it comes to reddit stories, it's also sad when people get saddled with huge bills they can't afford due to pure ignorance about how electricity usage works.

NB I don't live in the UK, but obviously the way it works is fairly universal. You pay a certain amount per day for the connection, and then you pay separately for the actual usage!

That's why having gas ovens can be a pain... you still pay the daily connection fee, even if you never use it! Oh well. At least it's only something like $40 per quarter just for the connection fee (in my case, anyways). :p

Our gas bill from late June-September is £66.

Perhaps after all, the rise in costs is because we did not save enough energy when we were asked to in the face of climate change. We didn't use less, so a rise in prices might work?

Oh do bore off. We live in a cold country and need to heat our homes..

BruceHellerAlmighty ·
Bore off? Did I say I agreed with that? What would you do to persuade people to cut down on their energy use? I was just making an observation. I really thought that people would know the difference.

Do you think I am the only one to say so? Think how silent the climate people are now that reality has set in. I bet half those marchers campaigning to reduce the amount of energy we use went home to huge deep baths which take gallons of hot water; that all those global warming people only tell us to save: and probably don't themselves.

Only some babies will die from chest complaints if we all go back to open fires or install wood burners? Is that what we're saying? Lots of the survivors will have asthma but plenty of other babies will be fiiiine. Jesus wept.

Just leaving this here:

"Dr Nick Hopkinson, medical director at Asthma UK and British Lung Foundation, said both indoor and outdoor pollution caused by wood burning stoves caused serious health issues, from breathing problems to an increased risk of heart attacks, strokes and lung cancer"

amp.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jan/01/avoid-using-wood-burning-stoves-if-possible-warn-health-experts

“To protect yourself and others around you, especially children who are particularly vulnerable as their lungs are smaller and still developing, avoid buying a wood-burning stove or using an open fire if you have another source of fuel to cook and heat your home with.”

In the middle to late 1960s the headlines of the Hatfield Gazette read:
''Look, no chimneys'' and the column report was of a new housing estate, the first of it's kind of houses without fireplaces and completely heated by central heating.

Until then, houses did have some kind of central heating - usually a Baxi fire with smokeless fuel, but it was only on the ground floor. There were no radiators in the bedrooms and bathrooms, but there was hot water in the bathroom upstairs.

It is hard to believe that 50 years ago new homes had either no central heating or just downstairs. It was in the 1960s that the first twin tub domestic washing machines came out. You can almost pin point when the demand for energy increased, and continued to increase. Tens of thousands of people who could not afford to heat their homes, finally experienced the joy of an easier and warmer life. Are we being forced to go back to before those days?

Do we actually know why energy costs have hit the sky when we should be producing our own? How can it be that we may be creating a great divide between those who can afford to keep warm, and fed, and those who cannot?

Has anyone worked out the cost to the NHS of people who cannot afford to live any more? Turning boilers down or off for long periods can create a dangerous situation where people may suffer carbon monoxide poisoning. Perhaps they already do. The symptoms of that, over a long period are very similar to dementia, which has increased dramatically since the 1960s and gas boilers.

At that time too, whole housing estates had no telephone cables laid, because in the 1960s few people had telephones.

Not only that, but there were no garages either, and only parking for emergency services.

No garages? Lots of houses in the 30s/40s had garages and parking.
I grew up in a council house built in the late 1940’s and we had a garage and a driveway. We had no central heating until 1980, before that we had one gas fire with a back boiler and a wall heater in the bathroom.

BorgQueen · Today 19:43

Absolutely true. You can still see those housing estates built from 1960/61 for a few years. When houses for buying were built, they had garages and telephone cables. Hard to imagine now, isn't it? Not even parking spaces in many areas. The government and planners just assumed that people would never be able to afford to buy cars, and in those days you were lucky to have a telephone party line with someone. You certainly could not get your own phone unless your for work. The nearest phones were miles away.