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Do you think there will be a General Election?

80 replies

Jourdain11 · 31/08/2022 11:17

And do you think there should be? Apparently there is a 'demand' for one, but surely the Tories wouldn't be so stupid (given that even their membership don't appear to be that keen on the PM they're about to elect)?

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Jourdain11 · 31/08/2022 11:30

Sorry, votes:

YANBU - there won't be a GE, the Conservatives have a good working majority and won't want to call one
YABU - there should and will be one

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Dogsgottabone · 31/08/2022 11:34

No there won't be, and technically there shouldn't be either.

I think Liz Truss will limp on for the full 2years and we will have a hung parliament and a scramble to put together a coalition of Labour, Lib Dems and SNP.

Unless Labour gets its act together. Which in my view means dumping Kier Starmer, electing Yvette Cooper or possibly Lisa Nandy and wiping the floor with the Tories.

Jourdain11 · 31/08/2022 11:40

Yvette Cooper would be a good leader but Lisa Nandy seems really naive (if well-intentioned). Labour are close to having the issue they had in opposition in the 90s, namely that few of their MPs have experience of governing.

Agree that I can't see Labour winning an outright majority with Starmer, and possibly not with anyone else due to the Scottish issue. But I cannot imagine the Tories would win any sort of majority either in a GE, and no one will go into coalition with them..

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maeveiscurious · 31/08/2022 11:41

No

HannahSternDefoe · 31/08/2022 11:47

Bring it on, I say.

We're a laughing stock anyway, but Liz Truss will be a disaster...cheese anyone?🤦‍♀️

girlmom21 · 31/08/2022 11:48

If our options are Starmer or Truss what's the bloody point?

Numbat2022 · 31/08/2022 11:51

I certainly hope so, given that Starmer is an intelligent man who will make a perfectly good PM. I've no idea why people take such issue with him - surely a Labour government with Starmer is better than endless bloody useless Tories?

However, public opinion is firmly anti-Tory at the moment and I would be surprised if they went for an election any time soon. They need a chance to bung middle England some more nice juicy tax cuts/house price rises so they feel well off and vote Tory for more of the same.

modgepodge · 31/08/2022 11:53

I think whichever tory wins the leadership
contest will find the magic money tree and give everyone huge amounts to cover extra energy costs. This will make them look good, like furlough did. THEN they’ll call a general election and the British public will forget the past 3 years and vote them in again.

GhostFromTheOtherSide · 31/08/2022 12:02

No.

This prime minister will rebuild trust in the government. A lot of the reason why people are against the tories is because of Boris. Not everyone obviously, but so many don’t see the bigger picture.

And when they’ve thrown money at the cost of living crisis there will be an election in 2 years time and the tories will almost certainly win. I anticipate they will be in power for another term at least.

Bearing in mind that Margaret Thatcher resigned in 1990 and the tories stayed in power for another 7 years after that.

Labour need to stop sniping at what the tories aren’t doing and start coming up with policies of their own if they want to build public confidence in them and make themselves electable. But right now they’re just not doing that.

BigWoollyJumpers · 31/08/2022 12:06

A Labour/Lib/SNP coalition is my worst nightmare. The SNP can't run Scotland effectively, the Libs are loons, Labour would be fine if they got rid of the hard left. I just really want a good, solid, middle of the road, centrist party, sadly this doesn't currently exist.

KnowtheBand · 31/08/2022 12:09

Ibthink Starmer is exactly the kind of person who should be PM. Intelligent and thoughtful and itsnkt all about him. Unfortunately his low profile won't get him elected and I really don't understand why Labour haven't sorted that by now.

ethelredonagoodday · 31/08/2022 12:15

I read this weekend that labour are ahead in the polls, so on that basis, there definitely won't be a GE any time soon!

rwalker · 31/08/2022 12:18

I hope not because think people are all geared up for the streets to be paved with gold when the current lot leave

I think there will be some serious back pedalling and disappointment

54isanopendoor · 31/08/2022 12:18

modgepodge · 31/08/2022 11:53

I think whichever tory wins the leadership
contest will find the magic money tree and give everyone huge amounts to cover extra energy costs. This will make them look good, like furlough did. THEN they’ll call a general election and the British public will forget the past 3 years and vote them in again.

There should be one, due to the absolute incompetance of this administration.
An incoming (not elected, again...) PM who 'won't discuss her plans' / doesn't have the info from the IMS / cancels interviews at short notice is a disaster.

We need a General Election imo. OR a temporary coalition as we are about to plunge into a recession such as we have not known for many years, whilst trying to navigage a difficult international situation (Ukraine/Russia, China, Europe)

caringcarer · 31/08/2022 12:21

I don't think we will have another election for another 2 years. Why would new leader call an election they are not certain of winning? In next election we will have effect of boundary changes too to factor in which I think favour Conservatives slightly. I think who might win a future election will be based on how well economy is doing then and how much help new leader gives the public. Certainly lower taxes would be good as take more low paid workers put of tax bracket altogether and allow all of us to keep a little more of what we earn. I think we need to think urgently about nuclear power and more wind farms and solar.

Jourdain11 · 31/08/2022 12:25

Oh Jesus! I completely forgot about Truss saying what a good idea it would be for Brits to go and fight in the Ukraine, like some kind of a People's Brigade as they had in the Spanish Civil War 🤔Didn't some senior military person have to come out and and explain that this was Not A Very Good Idea.

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Alexandra2001 · 31/08/2022 12:27

BigWoollyJumpers · 31/08/2022 12:06

A Labour/Lib/SNP coalition is my worst nightmare. The SNP can't run Scotland effectively, the Libs are loons, Labour would be fine if they got rid of the hard left. I just really want a good, solid, middle of the road, centrist party, sadly this doesn't currently exist.

Labour will win enough seats without any coalition and most of the harder left are no longer in the 'party... hence Labour not backing any form of strike action.

Labour are about as centralist as it comes.

What you actually want is the Tories to return to the centre, no other party will do.

Jourdain11 · 31/08/2022 12:30

Alexandra2001 · 31/08/2022 12:27

Labour will win enough seats without any coalition and most of the harder left are no longer in the 'party... hence Labour not backing any form of strike action.

Labour are about as centralist as it comes.

What you actually want is the Tories to return to the centre, no other party will do.

Without the Scottish seats, I can't see it. That's essentially 50ish safe seats that need replacing from somewhere. There aren't many urban seats left for them to make gains in, so it's dependent on taking back the red wall seats and making significant 'Middle England' gains.

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girlmom21 · 31/08/2022 12:30

KnowtheBand · 31/08/2022 12:09

Ibthink Starmer is exactly the kind of person who should be PM. Intelligent and thoughtful and itsnkt all about him. Unfortunately his low profile won't get him elected and I really don't understand why Labour haven't sorted that by now.

I think Kier Starmer would make a great Conservative PM if he could actually make some policies.

He's not ever going to make a good Labour PM.

girlmom21 · 31/08/2022 12:31

Jourdain11 · 31/08/2022 12:25

Oh Jesus! I completely forgot about Truss saying what a good idea it would be for Brits to go and fight in the Ukraine, like some kind of a People's Brigade as they had in the Spanish Civil War 🤔Didn't some senior military person have to come out and and explain that this was Not A Very Good Idea.

And she then denied ever saying it

Jourdain11 · 31/08/2022 12:33

girlmom21 · 31/08/2022 12:31

And she then denied ever saying it

For real? It was on the Today programme - I heard her saying it! Surely it's the most black and white case of sth being 'recorded for posterity'?

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Booklover3 · 31/08/2022 12:34

There should be one yes… but I doubt it.

CapMarvel · 31/08/2022 12:35

girlmom21 · 31/08/2022 11:48

If our options are Starmer or Truss what's the bloody point?

Fairly obviously, one of those two people is a fucking nutter and the other isn't.

FarmerRefuted · 31/08/2022 12:37

I think they'd win back the red wall easily. Our constituency flipped from red to blue for the first time ever and by a narrow majority. Its now widely acknowledged that our MP is a bit of a cunt and is unlikely to be reelected.

I also think there'll be an election. The cracks in the Conservative party are too deep and I give it six months before Truss gets backed into a corner where her only option will be to resign or call a GE. There's precedent for it too, when Brown took over from Blair an election was forced on the grounds that people didn't vote for Brown to be PM (even though we vote for party not person) and he had no mandate. The Conservatives were very vocal about it and since then every mid-term change of PM has called an election. I reckon Truss' first PMQs next week will see her facing the first shouts of "call an election" and "you don't have a mandate".

TooBigForMyBoots · 31/08/2022 12:37

There won't be a GE. The Tories know they would lose big time. They've fucked up the country so much I think it may be the end for them completely.

@girlmom21 when Starmer announces a policy the Tories nick it. The only successful ideas they've had recently have been Labour's.