Who was in the right lane? Picture included

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Hi everyone.

I use this roundabout almost daily. I was where the yellow line was. In the right hand lane to turn right around the roundabout 3rd exit.

The left lane has arrows for 1st exit and straight over (second exit) and right lane for 3rd and 4th. Well that's how I read it anyway! So I pulled out and a big angry man in a big angry van was in the LEFT lane but going for the same exit as me (3rd) He the got up my arse flashed me when I managed to get in front of him and then we came level at another roundabout down the road and he called me a blonde bitch (naiiiice).

Light hearted really, doesn't bother me. But AIBU to think I'm using the right lane? Seems pretty obvious to me but prepared to be told I'm wrong if so!

Also worth pointing the exit I was going for didn't have those bottleneck exits where 2 lanes could merge. Just the one lane.

What's that got to do with the price of fish?

Fish? What you on about?

For those saying the left lane should also have a right arrow then, I disagree. Because there are 4 exits so to me, the right arrow is for the right turning, I.e the last exit.

I don't know this junction at all. The second photo looks like BOTH lanes are marked A327.

I’m shocked you were in the wrong as I would have assumed the same as you.

It sounds like you may have cut him off a bit though.

If there were cars in the lane next to you then you need to wait for them to pass or indicate and wait to be let in - even if you are in the right lane and they’re in the wrong.

I think what you're seeing in the second photo is the google maps mark of what road you are currently on, and isn't meant to be in any particular lane.

That does seem like a hugely confusing junction/lane marking!

What do the signs beforehand say, if anything?

They should mark 'to tip only' or whatever people are saying the fourth exit is, if that's really all you can get to that way, which would clarify it.

this kind of thing is one of the reasons I hate roundabouts in new places, as the standard rules don't always apply, and you can't often see the lane markings far enough in advance or get confused about how the lanes feed into each other. Spiral roundabouts especially!

I was always told that the right hand lane is for the right turn only unless it's marked otherwise.

I think you were in the wrong.

He was wrong. I imagine just being lazy rather than changing lane properly. Hopefully he's told all his mates and they've put him right!

I was always taught that anything up to and including the 12 o’clock point from your entry means you should be in the left lane and anything to the right of the 12 o’clock point means you should be in the right lane - unless the road markings indicate otherwise www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/changes-and-answers/-highway-code-for-roundabouts

@Helpyou - idioms.thefreedictionary.com/What%27s+that+got+to+do+with+the+price+of+fish%3F - it’s a pretty well known saying

OP - you were in the right lane but as a bloke his DNA structure means he believes he was.

It doesn't sound like she was, though. Based on the road markings that others have posted and the explanation of how the roundabout used to work, it sounds like the intended lane for that exit is the left one.

The rule about 12 o'clock doesn't always apply - the highway code says to take the appropriate lane and follow any markings.

But the markings should definitely be clearer here!

sorry ignore that, I meant to quote the previous posted who said she was wrong!

I mean right.
I give up now.

The exit is on the right.

But the 3rd exit (the one we weee both heading for) is also on the right. It isn't straight over.

They just need better road markings I think. Seems a bit silly for them to have 1 lane for 3 exits and one lane for a 4th exit but if that's how it is then I'm probably in the wrong.

Sounds like they haven't updated the road markings as additional exits have been added, irritating, and makes the layout illogical now.

Yes the problem is that the guidance is generally for four exit roundabouts.

So people have been taught that the right lane is for the final exit or back to the start, which of course it is in that case.

But when there are not four exits, then it's more complicated, and I think the road markings and signage in advance needs to be much clearer.

They could paint something in the right lane to show which exit(s) they want it to be for. And a sign in advance would make it clear if both lanes could go to that same exit (which would then mean it would need to be two lanes coming off it, even if it's only for a very brief time)

This definitely needs better signage. People might not know the road number, and it isn't really straight on, slightly to the right. OP - maybe send this thread to the council!

But he was right! The road markings clearly say he was in the correct lane for the exit he was taking.

The massive arrows aren't just pretty decoration. Bless him. Maybe he needs an eye test.

Completely agree @QuattroFromagio - I use a roundabout daily which only has straight on or left options. People don't remember the HC bit which says use the right lane for the last exit so try to go straight on in the left lane (which would normally be the case for a four exit roundabout with no markings).

Just one more arrogant arse of a man who doesn't think the Highway Code applies to him.

@MintJulia turns out (from the others above) he was in the correct lane, but absolutely no need for him to be such a twat I agree!

What a stupid roundabout. Needs to be much better signposted as it is confusing and so will inevitably cause accidents.

There is a T junction near me where they changed the give way markings from the non obvious place, to the more obvious one. See attached shitty diagrams.

However they removed the old markings 6 months before bothering to paint the new ones. Leaving no markings at all. You then had those who knew the road giving way as before and those that didn't, giving way the obvious route. It was chaos and there were accidents. I reported it loads as did others but they took their sweet time regardless.

What happens if people don't know that exit is called the A327? Apart from the road markings there's no sign on that road that the 3rd exit is the A327 - there's always cars covering those road markings anyway so I just use common sense to get in the right lane to go round the roundabout to the right, taking the 3rd exit.

I am in the wrong then if we're going by the road I exited on was the A327, but the road markings are outdated as the 3rd exit is clearly to the right of the roundabout. Not left or straight on as per the road arrows.

Lesson learnt though I'll use the left lane next time!