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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

If I disagree with the majority of posters on mumsnet?

63 replies

NotSettlingIn · 28/08/2022 11:02

Am I the problem?

I'm experiencing cognitive dissonance! I've been all over the place, but relationships and AIBU are places I just don't agree with what most (over half of posters say!). I wasn't expecting that. I'm quite calm usually 😂

Light-hearted (But slightly serious)!

and Hello everyone!

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picklemewalnuts · 28/08/2022 11:56

It's a mixture. Sometimes accepting other people have a totally different opinion, and yet are allowed to, can be hard. It's accepting that other people think you are wrong. So if you post thinking everyone will sigh with relief that you've come up with the solution, you're in for a disappointment!

Also people are somewhat more forthright than in real life. If you are talking about struggling for money, but are spending on essentials others think are luxuries, you will be told. In real life people are much gentler about that! I listen to a few friends whinge about how hard up they are. I also notice they are eating out and socialising far more often than me. I don't challenge them but I notice, and I don't offer advice unless they actually ask because they don't want it. They want to whinge.

NotSettlingIn · 28/08/2022 11:56

Annieisalright · 28/08/2022 11:50

It's the people who either purposely or though sheer stupidity misunderstand peoples posts which really gets me sometimes on here

Especially around sensitive topics

I posted once a few years ago about a late stage miscarriage and finding it hard to then have my friend giving birth to her perfectly healthy baby a few weeks later

I posted a 'I'm just so sad that I lost my baby and she gets to bring hers home and not sure how to still be able to be around her once baby is here' and was accused by many posters of wishing my friend had a miscarriage so she'd be just as miserable as I was.

That hurt, and actually made me leave the site for a good couple of years before joining again.

I'm really sorry you went through that, you shouldn't have had to. Your feelings were completely normal and shouldn't have been invalidated in that way. I'm sorry.

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picklemewalnuts · 28/08/2022 12:02

I'd hang around a bit longer until you get a feel for it. The various boards are all different. Chat is usually ok, but very varied. AIBU seems to be mainly about judgement- I guess the clue is in the name, there.

Luredbyapomegranate · 28/08/2022 12:05

There are a lot of varied opinions.

Many hues of crackers and many just mucking about, but plenty reasonable.

There are also just a lot of posts

I’m guessing you agree with some

CountryCousin · 28/08/2022 12:06

It’s definitely entertainment for me - with the odd exception. (Some posters told me how to fold up a particular box once, something I’d been puzzling over for months.)

But I’m always surprised at how ill informed or plain wrong other people are! Grin I shrug it off of it’s a serious subject (because half of them are invented anyway and the responders equally twisted) but Style and Beauty bewilders me. I might spend ages finding links for some prospective bride who never so much as acknowledges the effort. Or lose myself down rabbit holes trying to help someone put together an outfit from clothes that I would never wear myself - only to be piled on by a chorus of miserable souls. Particularly if one dares to step beyond Phase Eight and John Lewis. I just thank the lord that MN posters don’t get to decide what I wear or how I should think.

happinessischocolate · 28/08/2022 12:08

I was in a thread about a woman who was worried about the cost of living, she had difficult circumstances and the thread went badly. There was a lot of judgement and I couldn't see the basis for it.

If that's the one with the OP who was prompted to post because she was serving up 6 chicken thighs for dinner then plenty of reasonable people were on her side and she was more than able to stand up for herself. The awful poster who told her if she was capable of going on holiday in her wheelchair then she was capable of working just showed how low some people will go.

Starship951 · 28/08/2022 12:08

Lots of the responses are batshit and I've noticed that some reasoned responses are just ignored.
I remember once on a 'eating more fruit and veg' thread, a poster suggested adding fruit and veg to baking (as well as other ways to increase consumption) and suggested carrot cakes and blueberry muffins.
The responses were ridiculous, rude and insulting.

Pyewhacket · 28/08/2022 12:11

You don't have to be experiencing cognitive dissonance to realize that 90% of the advice on this site is complete and utter bollocks. But that's what makes it so entertaining.

NotSettlingIn · 28/08/2022 12:13

Luredbyapomegranate · 28/08/2022 12:05

There are a lot of varied opinions.

Many hues of crackers and many just mucking about, but plenty reasonable.

There are also just a lot of posts

I’m guessing you agree with some

I absolutely agree with some, there are some brilliant posters. I suppose it's just a case of working out if it is worth it. I just wish it wasn't offensive. Disagreements aren't really the problem I suppose, but it can feel very confronting. I said to someone that they were taking something out of context once and they gave a reply worthy of Gordon Ramsey 😃. I know it's not personal, but it still stayed with me for a little while.

I think I will be leaving actually. Not everything is for everyone. It's good to know that I'm not the only one thinking this though and I appreciate the posts. Thanks everyone!!

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SunnyD44 · 28/08/2022 12:14

I find it really difficult sometimes as you can’t have a discussion about certain things without posters jumping down your throat or being rude.

I definitely think there are posters who go along with the majority.

There are also topics which are very biased and if you disagree you’re going to be in a minority - eg DV towards men, Step mums, MIL, sons above the age of 5.

daisychain01 · 28/08/2022 12:15

I posted a 'I'm just so sad that I lost my baby and she gets to bring hers home and not sure how to still be able to be around her once baby is here' and was accused by many posters of wishing my friend had a miscarriage so she'd be just as miserable as I was.

Unfortunately the reality is that posters often come along to threads of that nature with their own set of baggage and you might have inadvertently been subject to their projections of their own experiences where they threw rocks at you as 'proxy' for what happened to them. It was awful what you experienced Flowers

unfortunately, no matter how bad a life problem, I would sadly never trust random people on the internet least of all Mumsnet to care for my emotional wellbeing by starting a thread to discuss a sensitive problem as it's too risky to stick your head above the parapet and have it shot at. I'm not on Twitter, Fb etc for that reason.

Even if you get mixed responses, the harsh ones that hurl accusations at you are the ones that hurt most when you're on a very low ebb. I'd sooner seek support from a professional eg GP, counsellor etc, even though it does often mean a wait and can be expensive - MN is so 'immediate' it's easy to mistake it as providing a solution, but for many subjects, it can make things a whole lot worse.

Luredbyapomegranate · 28/08/2022 12:18

Fairislefandango · 28/08/2022 11:41

I think some people assume that MN is entirely or predominantly a forum for helping people. But it really isn't. I don't mean that as a criticism at all - most of MN is used for chat, entertainment, debate, information and sharing of mutual interests, and that's fine.

If you start a thread about a sensitive or sad personal issue, especially in sections like health, SEN or other boards aimed at helping people with difficulties, you can generally expect kind and helpful responses. It's pretty naïve to join a thread about, say, Brexit, designer handbags or bridezillas and expect the tone to be the same.

Yes I’d agree.

I think there is much kindness and good advice on here, but much else besides

It’s a very broad site

Purpleforthewin · 28/08/2022 12:18

AIBU form is pretty much designed for arguments. It's not somewhere to post of you want serious discussion. Mumsnet goes have other boards but I tend to find they don't get anywhere near as many responses, so other platforms such as Facebook groups I've found better for actual discussion and also support and advice

LittleBearPad · 28/08/2022 12:22

Fairislefandango · 28/08/2022 11:43

The volume of LTB responses is also batshit!

Hmmm. I reckon I agree with about 90% of LTB responses on MN. The number of women tolerating utter arseholes is staggering.

Hiding relationships does reduce this but I would agree that many women seem to put up with all sorts of shit. It’s very sad.

NotSettlingIn · 28/08/2022 12:23

happinessischocolate · 28/08/2022 12:08

I was in a thread about a woman who was worried about the cost of living, she had difficult circumstances and the thread went badly. There was a lot of judgement and I couldn't see the basis for it.

If that's the one with the OP who was prompted to post because she was serving up 6 chicken thighs for dinner then plenty of reasonable people were on her side and she was more than able to stand up for herself. The awful poster who told her if she was capable of going on holiday in her wheelchair then she was capable of working just showed how low some people will go.

Maybe I "unwatched" the thread too early, it just seemed to be going to a bad place.

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FindingMeno · 28/08/2022 12:24

There are a number of "types" I can identify on MN.
The extremely law-abiding pearl clutchers, the posh ones who love to swear on their comments so they feel part of something a bit more rough and ready than their normal life, and the social justice warriors.
Years ago ( under different names) I used to go head to head when I disagreed. Now much of the time I cba.

NotSettlingIn · 28/08/2022 12:26

LittleBearPad · 28/08/2022 12:22

Hiding relationships does reduce this but I would agree that many women seem to put up with all sorts of shit. It’s very sad.

I think relationships is my "niche" place.... Maybe that's the problem😂

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NotSettlingIn · 28/08/2022 12:30

Purpleforthewin · 28/08/2022 12:18

AIBU form is pretty much designed for arguments. It's not somewhere to post of you want serious discussion. Mumsnet goes have other boards but I tend to find they don't get anywhere near as many responses, so other platforms such as Facebook groups I've found better for actual discussion and also support and advice

Is it? I mean I know it's the busiest but I often see things that aren't AIBU on there. I've been picking from titles that interest me on active threads as well, not from the AIBU board so I don't really think about it until the thread gets full on and I check where it is from.

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SpicyJalfrezi · 28/08/2022 12:33

I think the AIBU mentality has permeated throughout MN, to be honest.

I disagree with MN most of the time 😂

RudsyFarmer · 28/08/2022 12:35

If you’re the drama then I am too 🤭

YetiTeri · 28/08/2022 12:36

I agree. MN is batshit sometimes, and a bit like a Twitter feed that's not reflective of a wider society.

The ridiculous toilet debates (who the hell has washed and rung out a pair of their knickers in a communal sink 🙄).

Plus the eye watering racism. "I just don't SEE colour'

The snobbery 'just pop some olives into DDs lunchbox'

And the faux parenting 'oh 4yo DS just sorts out his own avocado on toast in the morning, I barely remember he's there sometimes.'

Shame as in small pockets it's a real force for good (ie bounty reps and maternity care)

HRTQueen · 28/08/2022 12:39

MN does too little about the bullies on MN

i think they used to be more active in this regard (there has always been bullying on MN) not because it was a better place and posters were more understanding

it’s always the same one starts others follow

and at times people just want reassurance or to be heard. Some posters respond with well I wouldn’t let that happen/do that etc when it just isn’t relevant but they can’t help but inform you once again how they have it all worked out

then other times the support is amazing and can move me to tears

Spidey66 · 28/08/2022 12:46

Annieisalright · 28/08/2022 11:50

It's the people who either purposely or though sheer stupidity misunderstand peoples posts which really gets me sometimes on here

Especially around sensitive topics

I posted once a few years ago about a late stage miscarriage and finding it hard to then have my friend giving birth to her perfectly healthy baby a few weeks later

I posted a 'I'm just so sad that I lost my baby and she gets to bring hers home and not sure how to still be able to be around her once baby is here' and was accused by many posters of wishing my friend had a miscarriage so she'd be just as miserable as I was.

That hurt, and actually made me leave the site for a good couple of years before joining again.

I'm sorry you went through this experience. I've not had the same, but broadly similar experience. My parents died 'relatively' young...56 (the age I am now) and 67. When my dad died at 56, I was very bitter that other people were still alive well past that age, or still had parents alive in their 80s or whatever, while my dad was dead at 56.

I didn't really want other people to not live past 56, it was part of the grieving process and trying to make sense of it all. Grief throws up all kinds of feelings and emotions, many of them unpleasant.

LittleBearPad · 28/08/2022 12:50

HRTQueen · 28/08/2022 12:39

MN does too little about the bullies on MN

i think they used to be more active in this regard (there has always been bullying on MN) not because it was a better place and posters were more understanding

it’s always the same one starts others follow

and at times people just want reassurance or to be heard. Some posters respond with well I wouldn’t let that happen/do that etc when it just isn’t relevant but they can’t help but inform you once again how they have it all worked out

then other times the support is amazing and can move me to tears

Report them but you have to give context.

I would agree however that the moderation isn’t as good as it used to be.

Riapia · 28/08/2022 13:31

I keep trying to tell everybody.
On AIBU Any views expressed are not necessarily those of the people posting them.