Page 3 | Speeding under 77 in a 70 is still liable to a fine, yes?!

BettyBoomerangBoo · 2022-08-25T20:48:57+00:00

Please settle argument with friend. He reckons if you do a little over 70 on the motorway you don't get fined - he reckons you get a bit of leeway and only get fined if you're doing more than 10% over. So 22 in a 20 zone, no fine. 33 in a 30, ok. YANBU, he's wrong. You can get fined for doing anything over the speed limit YABU - he's right. A little over never results in a fine.

bridgetreilly · 26/08/2022 00:17

At the last speed awareness course I did, they said that because speedometers give you a few mph to play with, some police forces have decided to fine at 1mph over the limit, on the basis that your speedometer will already be saying higher than that.

PanicAtTheBigTesco · 26/08/2022 06:38

bridgetreilly · 26/08/2022 00:17

At the last speed awareness course I did, they said that because speedometers give you a few mph to play with, some police forces have decided to fine at 1mph over the limit, on the basis that your speedometer will already be saying higher than that.

I was just going to say this, people saying they got fined for 21 in a 20, or 32 in a 30 were probably fined because the police know you were more likely do 25/36 ish.

It's like when you go past those flashing slow down speed signs, there's one on my road and if I drive past it at bang on 20 it always says 16. I've tried it out and for it to say 20 I have to do 24, so to get fined for doing 22 I would have been doing 26. There's a big difference in safety between 20 and 26.

cathol · 26/08/2022 07:24

Can any of the posters claiming her to have been fined for 32 in 30 / 52 in a 50 etc please share the paperwork that confirm this?

Police guidance and the thread hold for a court prosecution is very clear and 32 in a 30 would not be prosecuted.

Id love to see the evidence that it is, as that could be challenged through the courts.

PurpleDaisies · 26/08/2022 07:31

There were people on my speed awareness course who were doing 32mph in a 30mph zone. I was told that they no longer allowed the 10% over the limit because of improvements to technology.

TakeMeToYourLiar · 26/08/2022 07:33

I’m not sure about this, in Yorkshire I did a course for doing 74 in a 70 though it was some years ago

MintJulia · 26/08/2022 07:45

Most police forces have clear and publicly available policy. I doubt it's 10% but inaccuracies in speedometers mean most areas will allow 2-3%.

But that's a margin for error. You aren't intended to drive to it.

mountainsunsets · 26/08/2022 07:58

cathol · 26/08/2022 07:24

Can any of the posters claiming her to have been fined for 32 in 30 / 52 in a 50 etc please share the paperwork that confirm this?

Police guidance and the thread hold for a court prosecution is very clear and 32 in a 30 would not be prosecuted.

Id love to see the evidence that it is, as that could be challenged through the courts.

No, as it was well over a year ago and DH has since binned the letter.

He got a fine and a speed awareness course for going 32 in a 30.

Guidance is just guidance, surely. If you're over the limit, you're over the limit 🤷🏻‍♀️

knittingaddict · 26/08/2022 08:07

modgepodge · 25/08/2022 21:57

I believe (and I could be wrong) that a) car speedometers are set a little higher than they actually are, so if it says 30 you’re probably only doing 27/28, and also they tend not to fine if you’re less than 10% over. These two things combined mean you’re unlikely to be fined if you’re less than 10% over.

i was told all this almost 20’years who though so it could easily be wrong! It’s generally the rule I live by and I have yet to receive a fine, though I do slow down if I see an actual camera…(and this post has probably jinxed it and I’ll get a fine next week!!)

I was also thinking that the 10% was about the speedometer inaccuracy than any leeway from the authorities.

It may be a bit of both.

Agrudge · 26/08/2022 09:26

StillGoingStrongToday · 25/08/2022 23:09

That’s quite an interesting take.

It’s definitely illegal, but doing 71mph up an empty M11 at 10pm in mid-July being “disgusting”? Don’t be so ridiculous.

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That's mumsnet for you.

68mph = safe
69mph = safe
70mph = safe
71mph = disgusting, reckless ,dead kittens everywhere

PasTrop · 26/08/2022 09:31

Agrudge · 26/08/2022 09:26

That's mumsnet for you.

68mph = safe
69mph = safe
70mph = safe
71mph = disgusting, reckless ,dead kittens everywhere

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I suppose I’d failed to consider the very real possibilities that a large group of nuns with baskets of kittens all jump down from a bridge ahead of me.

I feel awful now at not realizing the seriousness of the offence.

phlebasconsidered · 26/08/2022 09:38

I've just done my first ever speeding course in 40 years of blameless driving for doing 32mph. A new speed camera at the entrance to a village (not in the village) caught me as I was slowing. I always have my car beeper on to the speed limit and it too did not realise the 30mph zone had changed. 3 others on the same course were all the same camera.

Agrudge · 26/08/2022 09:50

phlebasconsidered · 26/08/2022 09:38

I've just done my first ever speeding course in 40 years of blameless driving for doing 32mph. A new speed camera at the entrance to a village (not in the village) caught me as I was slowing. I always have my car beeper on to the speed limit and it too did not realise the 30mph zone had changed. 3 others on the same course were all the same camera.

How did you manage to not see a bright yellow box?

LordEmsworth · 26/08/2022 10:03

cathol · 26/08/2022 07:24

Can any of the posters claiming her to have been fined for 32 in 30 / 52 in a 50 etc please share the paperwork that confirm this?

Police guidance and the thread hold for a court prosecution is very clear and 32 in a 30 would not be prosecuted.

Id love to see the evidence that it is, as that could be challenged through the courts.

What, you're going to take on the righteous fight against The Authorities against people who only broke the law a little bit, so you need to gather evidence?

I know people like online. But "I got fined for speeding" seems like a weird lie to brag about. A quick Google confirms that the 10 per cent "rule" is in fact guidance. A fine is not a prosecution in the courts, anyway, not sure why you have conflated the two? If it reached court it would be non payment of the fine ...