… to really not understand how so many women participate in porn?

[TwoBrownSugars]

I recently watched the Thyberg movie Pleasure. I liked parts of it. It showed a somewhat young and vulnerable girl, there were elements of friendship, some competitiveness, etc. But it did make me wonder who are all these women, they are real people, and think that they all have a story.

I just can’t imagine doing something like that, even when I was young and stupid. I also cannot imagine any of my friends doing it.

I’d assume that for some it’s a mixture of coercion, trafficking and drugs?

Money? But I’d assume there is very little for the participants?

This isn’t true it’s insulting to women to assume the vast majority would only do porn because they were abused.

most just like money, also some like the attention and power they can have over men with their bodies.

why do you think so many normal women do onlyfans the millions of women making money on the side aren’t weirdos they’re the girls next door, they have normal jobs too most aren’t even broke but people want to be able to buy luxuries and go on extra holidays or even just save for their house deposit a bit faster

NC for this. I create free amateur content with my partner. We’re both exhibitionists and it’s a way of indulging our kink in a comparatively safe way. We never show our faces. We have a number of regular “followers” within the kink community. We both have well-paid jobs, we’re not interested in making money out of it. Neither of us look like models (although obviously I think my partner is gorgeous). We just enjoy sex, and enjoy sharing our sex life in adult online spaces set up for that purpose. There’s a number of people who prefer amateur porn to professional.

I can imagine scenarios in which I'd have done it in the past. I'm just not that precious about sex, I don't really see it as a big thing so can imagine how I'd be able to work in the industry. I wasn't abused as a child. At uni I worked at strip club which isn't the same but is definitely down that path.

There's a fairly massive difference between enjoying sex as a pleasurable, purely physical thing without needing to be "in love"/emotional connection (eg enjoying having ONS for physical pleasure), and having dissociative PTSD.

I wonder what the opinion is on lesbians who have casual sex/ONS exclusively with other women (not porn, just casual sex without emotional connection, purely for the purpose of physical pleasure).

I don't think you're remotely psycho for categorising things like this lol.

Thank you for your insight.

I think for lots it's easy money. There have been programs on in the past about students doing escorting etc to fund their college. Allows them to live in a nicer apartment etc.

Interesting survey data here, www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/homo-consumericus/201405/why-do-women-become-porn-actresses

it includes reasons for doing it, likes, dislikes

It’s widely cited in academia … quick check on google scholar

I've not sure the OP was pearl clutching, just trying to understand how girls get into it. You're right though, usually vulnerable girls.

nordicmodelnow.org

Has all the facts, yes the majority are abused and the patriarchy is why women sell sex, porn or otherwise.

That survey doesn’t appear to ask about abuse. Maybe I’m missing something there.

Surely this is prostitution/selling physical services? I don't think 50% of porn watchers have solicited prostitutes or that 99% of porn watchers are men

That’s about prostitution. This thread is about pornography.

It's really just a job. Sex isn't really any different to any other thing people do for money, unless you think it is different, which many people do. If someone has the choice of earning X amount of money for doing a normal job, or many times that amount for having sex on camera, and they don't mind having sex on camera, it's hard to say they are morally wrong for doing it.

@StillGoingStrongToday So if it's filmed it's porn, and if it isn't it's prostitution?

The women may be different but the reason they're doing it is the same.

Many porn stars have only fans accounts and offer sexual services, the two are not mutually exclusive.

You posted data for a completely different question. You are the third person to make the same claim and get give no evidence to back it up.

If it exists, why are none of you lot able to supply it?

@StillGoingStrongToday

Please stop supporting a disgusting abuse of women that has somehow become normalised in society. Plenty research to support that women who are in porn come from vulnerable traumatic backgrounds

Research has shown how child sexualized abuse “functions as a training ground for prostitution” (Farley 2003). Childhood sexualized abuse is the most common precursor to prostitution, with studies finding that between 60-90% of prostituted persons have been subject to sexualized abuse in childhood (Farley et al., 2003; Waltman, 2016).

https://digitalcommons.uri.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1271&context=dignity

PORN & VULNERABILITY
A study [58] that examined the mental health of female porn performers
in California revealed that women in porn experience the following:
• Child victims of rape: 37%
Foster care as children: 21%
Rape as adults: 27%
Met criteria for Depression: 33%
Lived in poverty in the past 12 months: 50%
• Domestic violence in the past 12 months: 34%

One study showed that women in prostitution experienced a statistically
significant increase in rates of PTSD when pornography was made of them
and/or they were coerced into imitating pornography. [59]
PORN & TRAFFICKING
Watching porn increases the likelihood that the consumer will hire a
prostituted person. [60]
49% of women who have worked in prostitution report being filmed by
their traffickers or johns. [61] This is just the percentage of women
who knew they were being filmed.

https://www.marylandchildrensalliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/SEXINDUSTRYTREASURES-TRAFFICKINGSTATS_STATISTICSDownload.pdf

Money/reward, allied with a lack of better options covers most participants.

Growing up in the '70's, I read unsuitable material which brushed over the reality and presented 'porn' as a lifestyle choice.

I was very lucky to be at a good school, a fist full of o and a levels and a choice of Uni options.

The first inkling I got about the lucky escape I had had came in the expose of the background to Linda Lovelace's Deep Throat movie.

amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/jun/10/deep-throat-at-50-linda-lovelace-porn-mainstream

Just the premise. Sigh.

You are full of it, aren’t you? Those links still don’t contain data that proves the claim made.

Are any of you able to put data ahead of your prejudice?

It's the money

As with many jobs, some make a killing others don't

It's incredibly naive to think all women who participate in porn are trafficked, coerced or do so for drugs.

The large production companies wouldn't touch a drug addict with a barge pole for example.

I couldn't fathom working for minimum wage, doesn't make it less of an option for many people.

Just asking

How many enter the profession due to

Wanting fast and lots of £ ?
How many have only fans, and why they do onlyfans ?
How many want sugar daddies, especially when there has been different documentaries about the subject ?

I take part in amateur paid porn. The money is excellent.

@crystal1982 what do you mean by excellent though? If you don't mind me asking

A few grand per scene plus royalties.

A lot more women are prostitutes than do porn OP. So if you don’t find the world’s oldest profession hard to understand, porn isn’t either,

Anyway, money mostly.