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To think these people are amazingly entitled?

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ChunkyLegsandKinderEggs · 23/08/2022 13:10

www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/vogue-williams-flight-seats-spencer-matthews-b2150116.html#l7652tmicb0ymkdkfgc

I was actually astounded reading this!

Summary for those who don’t want to click the link: Vogue Williams booked the wrong seats on a plane, demanded a man move so they could all sit together, he initially declined to move and then changed his mind, she was still incredibly rude about him to an air hostess and then bitched about it on her podcast. And by the sounds of it, she’s done this before, suggesting that she just expects everyone to bend to her will. Also Spencer Matthews admitted that he frequently queue jumps.

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CulturePigeon · 26/08/2022 10:26

LuluBlakey1 and Andante57

Oh, I'm sure a big charge was made! It's one of the ways these places keep financially afloat. But I'm sure it was mere small change to Beyonce.

My point was more the entitlement - demanding to be accommodated at short notice and then rudely ignoring the experience. How do people get to be like this? No-one was forcing the tour on her - which might have been a (feeble) excuse for her ignorance.

How difficult would it have been to smile and listen, just for a while? Or if she wasn't interested, then go away and bother someone else!

tonicwaters · 26/08/2022 10:27

Plenty of so called ordinary people get a personality transplant when travelling with kids I find. The sense of entitlement of parents is very often a sight to behold.

As for these non entities, what the F do they do for me? How do they enhance my life? Nope I wouldn't look at them or read anything about them. My life is far richer not knowing who TF they are.

Curlyshabtree · 26/08/2022 10:29

LuluBlakey1 · 26/08/2022 08:19

Can someone who is a follower of people like these two - or others like Katie Price, Kerry Katona, Towie, Lauren Goodger, Love Island, Kardtrashions etc- please explain to me why we, as a country, show interest in pathetic, talentless celebrities?

I really don't understand it. I don't understand why anyone would have any interest in them. I don't understand why people fill the pockets of these people money by following their accounts, giving them any attention, watching them on reality tv shows, buying things because they promote them? We give them status snd a sense of their own self-importance and entitlement.

They, and the others like them, are talentless and most behave badly, will sell anything personal to the Press for money and attention, yet there are millions of people who spend time and money following them, praising them, sending them public messages, trying to emulste them. It's mindless and has been turned into an industry that exploits people who do that.

Katie Price, Kerry Katona, Vogue Williams/Spencer Mathews, the Kardashions, Lauren Goodger, Towie, LoveIsland etc. These people have no real talent but earn millions because the public slavishly follow them and fall i to the trap of the PR/Media machine that is literally making billions daily from the public's obsessions with them.
It is mindless, devoid of intelligence behaviour and I just don't understand why anyone is one of the people that is a follower of celebrities.
Can someone who is, please explain it to me?

Awesome post! You are absolutely spot on.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 26/08/2022 10:30

I normally don't find her unlikeable but I'm afraid she's got to a position where either the people in her life aren't telling her when she's acting like a dick, or she is not listening.

I suspect she will look back and cringe.

Justleaveitblankthen · 26/08/2022 10:34

JessesMum777888 · 26/08/2022 10:20

She’s a twat.

😂 Spot on 👍

feistyoneyouare · 26/08/2022 10:34

FinallyHere · 23/08/2022 18:19

Re 'do you know who I am"

Seb Coe at the highs of his fame once arrived at the wrong door to Lords (MCC) cricket ground. He was politely advised which door to go to and pulled the 'don't you know who I am' card.

When he had explained (current holder of world record for fastest 800m sprint) the person on the door was allegedly replied 'well you will be able to round round there quickly, won't you'.

I love this!😂

southlondonerhere · 26/08/2022 11:00

Andromachehadabadday · 23/08/2022 13:17

What always amazes me about these types of people is that not are the dickheads in the moment. They then get space away from the situation, still can’t see how ridiculous they were and go on to be more dickish. And still so convince everyone will agree with them, that they share their story publicly.

lots of us are guilty of being a dickhead, but usually realise later, that we were dicks. But these sort of people don’t seem to have that ability

Agree with all of this, everyone has their moments of being unreasonable, usually in times of stress, but at some point later on we all realise that we were being unreasonable! Some people just don't. I wouldn't of moved for them either.

southlondonerhere · 26/08/2022 11:06

My DP and I went on holiday in February and we made sure to get seats together, all excited boarding the plane, and then we're told that our seating has changed because the airline has given our seats to a family instead. DP was sat near the front of the plane, I was sat at the back of the place amongst a group of teenage boys. I understand that families like to sit together or sometimes need to sit together, but surely if you need that kind of accommodation you should do some more forward planning? I'm not the best flyer either so didn't really appreciate being sat on my own amongst a load of teenage boys on a lads holiday

Leafy3 · 26/08/2022 11:18

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 23/08/2022 18:33

Not shocked tbh. Many of these talentless C, D, E, and Z listers are all the same. The REALLY talented hugely successful A listers (and some B listers, the ones who aren't top of the tree stars but always in work IYSWIM,) are often quite nice, pleasant, and not showy or entitled.

Tom Hardy, Leo DiCaprio, David Beckham, and Johnny Depp etc have been known to be very humble, chatty, and pleasant, and lovely to their fans, but people like 'Arge' off TOWIE (and people similar to him,) are entitled A-holes who think they're much bigger than they are, and they're vile to people.

So this news about Vogue and Spencer comes as no shock whatsoever tbh.

Yes, that's because, like the Queen, A listers have people to do their stropping for them so they can always appear to remain above it while their employees make their demands on their behalf.

billy1966 · 26/08/2022 11:25

southlondonerhere · 26/08/2022 11:00

Agree with all of this, everyone has their moments of being unreasonable, usually in times of stress, but at some point later on we all realise that we were being unreasonable! Some people just don't. I wouldn't of moved for them either.

Agree with this.

Bad enough to have behaved so appallingly, but to then advertise the fact.

She must be thick as mud.

silentpool · 26/08/2022 11:34

I wouldn't have moved. As they say, a lack of planning on your part doesn't constitute an emergency on my part.

Arbesque · 26/08/2022 11:44

I'm not talking specifically about Vogue, but a lot of these people are surrounded by sycophants and fans and like all sense if reality, living in a kind of bubble, completely unaware of how rude, self entitled or demanding their behaviour is and how badly they're coming off to people outside their bubble.

Arbesque · 26/08/2022 11:45

'Lose' all sense of reality

Theblacksheepandme · 26/08/2022 11:48

southlondonerhere
My DP and I went on holiday in February and we made sure to get seats together, all excited boarding the plane, and then we're told that our seating has changed because the airline has given our seats to a family instead. DP was sat near the front of the plane, I was sat at the back of the place amongst a group of teenage boys. I understand that families like to sit together or sometimes need to sit together, but surely if you need that kind of accommodation you should do some more forward planning? I'm not the best flyer either so didn't really appreciate being sat on my own amongst a load of teenage boys on a lads holiday

There is absolutely no way I would have accepted that.

Arbesque · 26/08/2022 11:52

We were actually paged at the airport once by BA and asked if we'd change seats so a family could sit together. We agreed, even though we had picked an aisle seat for a particular reason.
I saw the family sitting in our seats. The youngest child was about 18. Very selfish people and what on earth was some idiot thinking actually paging us at the airport?

Capri3 · 26/08/2022 13:27

southlondonerhere · 26/08/2022 11:06

My DP and I went on holiday in February and we made sure to get seats together, all excited boarding the plane, and then we're told that our seating has changed because the airline has given our seats to a family instead. DP was sat near the front of the plane, I was sat at the back of the place amongst a group of teenage boys. I understand that families like to sit together or sometimes need to sit together, but surely if you need that kind of accommodation you should do some more forward planning? I'm not the best flyer either so didn't really appreciate being sat on my own amongst a load of teenage boys on a lads holiday

We’ve just had that a couple of weeks ago. Was it BA? They changed DH’s seat sometime between us checking in online/printing the passes the night before, and us arriving at the gate early the following morning. Had no idea until we got to the gate and had to rush through to board. DH has an invisible disability, so needed to be sat where we had booked! 😡

Also incredibly annoying as we booked and reserved our seats months ago, but there were still a few random seats left a few days before, so obviously a family booked them, then kicked off at the airport about being sat separately.

The child sat in DH’s seat looked around 10 or 11, so not in need of any parental assistance.

kateandme · 27/08/2022 06:11

Curlyshabtree · 26/08/2022 10:29

Awesome post! You are absolutely spot on.

I think it's also down to manipulation. People's self worth has never been lower.diet culture,body image,skin,aging,life pressure.and these people no exactly how to play on that. Be who they want to be themselves and sell from it. It's horrid.
They are modern day adverts on social media.moving billboards.
Teenagers watch it.drawn to it.want to be it.so do adults.its almost punishment we see these beautiful lives.which by the way aren't even real themselves.
The people we covet are NOT real and just filtered to fuck.

Endlesssummer2022 · 27/08/2022 07:36

‘Yes, that's because, like the Queen, A listers have people to do their stropping for them so they can always appear to remain above it while their employees make their demands on their behalf.’

Exactly this. The Z listers have to do the ‘dirty’ work themselves. A Listers have ‘people’ and can also afford the best PRs if they do fuck up to minimise reputational damage.

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