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to be happy Andrew Tate has been kicked off some social media?

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Anewdayanewdawn · 20/08/2022 14:53

so his 'official' TikTok is down, and he's banned on Insta and Facebook apparently... BIL thinks it's outrageous and the guy is a "legend' whereas I think he's probably been punched in the head too many times as he make no or little sense most of the time.
Normally this wouldn't bother me as much but I had to sit my 12 year old down to discuss why Tate is a misogynistic, insecure waste of space who's thick as shite and only half as useful after discovering that the boys in his friendship grp thought Tate was someone to emulate.

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yellowsmileyface · 25/08/2022 10:57

Influencers influence. Protecting young men from following his hateful ideology is much more important than his "right" to free speech, IMO.

Amen. This isn't about an opinion we disagree with, his ideology enforces misogynistic views that manifest as violence towards girls and women. Like fuck should we just let him get on with it because of HIS rights to freedom of speech. What about women's rights to feel safe in the world?

Anewdayanewdawn · 25/08/2022 11:50

He’s free to spout his views just not in these platforms.

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C8H10N4O2 · 25/08/2022 11:52

AmbushedByCake1 · 20/08/2022 20:48

Free speech isn't freedom from consequences. He spouts these views on privately owned platforms such as Instagram or Facebook; they have the right to kick him off if he doesn't follow their code of conduct.

If there is no freedom from consequences there is no freedom of speech. That is the whole point - we should be free to speak without fear of intimidation or violence.

What their may be is a balance of rights where speech being used to abuse and incite violence (Tate would fall foul of both of those) is sufficient to overrule the right to speak. However that threat needs to be real and demonstrated and not simply people being offended.

SM is not the town square, its worse than that it already - it has put the town square in private hands for private profit and it controls what you can say and who is allowed to hear it. That is why regulation is needed both to protect free speech and to protect target groups from extremism.

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