Young people - workshy, or a wee bit canny?

[SwanBuster]

Inspired by a spirited discussion in the Scottish highlands.

A local cafe owner (late forties) was bemoaning his staffing situation to another forty something man, who was buying a coffee with his daughter. I was waiting for mine.

”I’m understaffed - can’t get the workers. I’m paying them 20% above minimum wage but the 18-30 generation don’t want to work - they’d rather sell drugs or be on benefits’.

The chap he was talking to said :

‘oh really - yeah it’s terrible that, they just don’t have the ethic’.

At this point I (another forty something) interjected, and said :

“Well, can we really blame them? Vast swathes of them have been disenfranchised through the cost of housing. They don’t see a path to a stake in society any more”

He said “Utter bollocks - I worked hard and they don’t want to”. The other guy agreed.

Then another guy (again forty something 😂) started agreeing with me, saying he sees it in the corporate world that it’s the sorted 50 somethings who bought cheap houses who are the workshy ones cruising along.

I agreed - imho, no point in working unless you get £100k. Only then can you hope to match the lifestyle of a retail worker from the past”

All the while a young person was waiting for her coffee looked very non pleased and the cafe owner apologised saying “not all young people obviously”

AIBU to think the young are right to “lie flat” and not bother if things don’t change?

I’m warier still of people who can’t read. Call me crazy.

🤣🤣🤣🤣seriously love you don’t sound half as smart as you think you do. I wonder if your mouth ‘compromises’ your bottom, what with the amount of shite coming out of it.

And you very much did say it’s not worth working unless you’re earning £100k. Then moan about £3 wasted.

You were the one who used ‘compromised’ instead of comprised!

you rally like rewriting history!

They probably don’t, but you went into a cafe and you chose to spend £6.50 on a sandwich, and then, with your ‘big bollocks’ decided to say absolutely fuck all about the sub par quality of said sandwich so I’m not sure you have grounds to moan about it really.

I don’t believe I said otherwise.

seems like YOU are the one rewriting history. Still waiting to hear where I have back-pedalled

*really

and yeah - the difference between £3.50 and £6.50 is £3.

But £6.50 is also 85% more pricey than £3.50

So because I actually have a brain, I see that as an extremely large percentage difference, rather than a small nominal amount. What I earn doesn’t enter into that equation. It’s entirely
irrelevant.

Where have I once done so, or changed my stance?

you on the other hand started all the gender bullshit because you can’t read!

Mcdonalds and Subway are thin on the ground (ie non-existant) throughout most of the Highlands, so not really a suitable comparator. Food often tends to cost more in remote areas due to transport costs etc, and the cafes in the rural Highlands are almost all independents.

A better question would be how the quality and price of the £6.50 sandwich compared to the sandwiches served by other cafes in that area. That will tell you whether you're getting value for money (rather than listening to what Mr Big Bollocks up from SE England reckons).

^ non-existent (given that Mr Big Bollocks seems to be using pedantry about typos to score points)

I admitted I misread the word ‘was’ to mean ‘wasn’t’. You seem to be getting overexcited about this oversight.

You’re rewriting history because you’ve said I’ve back-pedalled and that I denied using the word ‘compromised’. I haven’t. The mouth-arse comment was a play on the word you kept repeating back to me.

Im sure i could use this opportunity to come up with a fancy word salad statement but I’m not a sad sack so I won’t

It’s 3 fucking quid. Which is an amount YOU, who presumably doesn’t run an independent cafe, decided the sandwich was overpriced by. Not sure you what qualifies for this but you decided to buy it and say nothing, even with your big bollocks, when you werent happy with the quality. Probably too busy imagining your pretend conversation to speak up?

@Emanresu9 care to provide a reasoning for this opinion?

Generations always complain about those who came before and those who came over - sometimes with good reason. Some people are workshy; some aren't. My experience has been it's a lack of life experience and awareness of work expectations that can make it seem like younger staff are slackers (and I embarrassingly look back on my younger self and wish I could go back and tell myself not to make the rather obvious errors I did). In terms of people - of any age - not wanting to accept NMW jobs, or those that are marginally above NMW is that NMW simply isn't enough to live on.