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To call Kate and William

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ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 17/08/2022 23:31

Kate and William? If ever I talk about them with anyone, they're Kate and William. I was out last week with three friends and one of them brought them up in conversation "The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge ...." If she's feeling relaxed she might refer to her as Catherine.

Yes I know it is their official title(s) but it's a job title, not a name. And it feels weird to talk about someone in that way. I wouldn't talk about my boss as "the head of department", I would say Mark. Because that is his name.

I'm roughly the same age as Kate and William too, and I sort of "grew up" with him in the news etc, then when Kate came on the scene, she was just an ordinary person. I can't bow and scrape to either of them, in person or in conversation. That isn't disrespectful. Indeed, at the end of the day, they are simply people just like us (this is not a post to debate the usefulness of the royal family, if they're scroungers or lazy or should be cancelled, that's a whole other debate). William does call her Kate in private and has been overheard saying it at events.

So, Kate and William it will continue to be if I ever discuss them.

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FilePhoto · 17/08/2022 23:33

Call them whatever you like, they won't know. (Or care I'd imagine)

GiveMeMyBoobsBack · 17/08/2022 23:33

Do they really come up in conversation often enough to give it any thought?

SparrowsNest · 17/08/2022 23:34

Call them what you like, can't say they ever come up in my conversations.

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 17/08/2022 23:35

GiveMeMyBoobsBack · 17/08/2022 23:33

Do they really come up in conversation often enough to give it any thought?

A couple of the people in that circle of friends are royal watchers, and one of them works with the daughter in law of one of the queen's senior staff so it does yes.

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JoanCandy · 17/08/2022 23:36

I call them scrounging parasites that leech off the rest of us, but you do you.

HinchcliffeandMurgatroyd · 17/08/2022 23:36

Absolutely. I think the age of deference is over TBH.

wherearebeefandonioncrisps · 17/08/2022 23:38

Who ducking cares?

KentuckyDerbyandJoan · 17/08/2022 23:40

Okaaay

LoveMeForARaisin · 17/08/2022 23:42

I’m a fan of the royals, but I think people who insist on calling the royals by their titles are fucking weird.

like the sycophants in the comments section of their social media.

OnlyEverAutumn · 17/08/2022 23:42

They won’t know so who cares 🤷‍♀️.

LookingOverHereAllNight · 17/08/2022 23:44

I like to call them Meghans BIL/SIL. Or maybe Charlottes mum and dad sometimes. I like to mix it up, live on the edge and be a bit crazy.

SleepingStandingUp · 17/08/2022 23:44

I think it's normal, esp as like me your their age so there isn't even "he's your senior" (he's 6 months younger than me) and they're still a way from the Crown. I would say The Queen, Prince Charles / Charles, William

Luredbyapomegranate · 17/08/2022 23:59

kaffy n Wiwl

LaMarschallin · 18/08/2022 00:00

Do you want us to tell them, OP, or will you?

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 18/08/2022 00:04

LaMarschallin · 18/08/2022 00:00

Do you want us to tell them, OP, or will you?

😹😹😹

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WomanStanleyWoman2 · 18/08/2022 00:14

I can't bow and scrape to either of them, in person or in conversation.

Luckily the chances of you ever clapping eyes on either of them are minimal - despite your incredible connection to high-ups in the royal household.

Call them whatever you damn well please. Literally no one will care.

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 18/08/2022 00:31

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 18/08/2022 00:14

I can't bow and scrape to either of them, in person or in conversation.

Luckily the chances of you ever clapping eyes on either of them are minimal - despite your incredible connection to high-ups in the royal household.

Call them whatever you damn well please. Literally no one will care.

What are you on? I've no connections to any of them. Very weird and aggressive response. @

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HinchcliffeandMurgatroyd · 18/08/2022 00:33

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 18/08/2022 00:14

I can't bow and scrape to either of them, in person or in conversation.

Luckily the chances of you ever clapping eyes on either of them are minimal - despite your incredible connection to high-ups in the royal household.

Call them whatever you damn well please. Literally no one will care.

😂

Bad day Stanley.?

Rottenapples · 18/08/2022 00:35

Last year I had the opportunity to work with Charles and Camilla for a few days, and this included being in direct contact with him a couple of times for a few mins with no one in immediate earshot (i.e. private secs and ppos nearby but occupied).

In the six weeks preceding I told everyone that would listen about how I would refuse to bow or call him yrh or anything but Charles, and how I would even give him a piece of my mind for being a scrounger off of public funds.

When the day came I obviously bottled it. I would’ve lost my job (and faced consequences) if I had a go at him. But I did manage to not bow (shook his hand instead each time). I ended up calling him yrh only once and when the girls on their stupid plane to leave I showed my tiny defiance by refusing to wave at the window from the tarmac like a looney.

AtrociousCircumstance · 18/08/2022 00:36

This is such a bonkers thread 😂

Also see: woman in her own living room: “I’ll call the queen Lizzie if I like!”

🤣

So pointless. A lovely sorbet of pointlessness in a raging world of bad news.

You carry on, OP!

ParanoidGynodroid · 18/08/2022 00:40

William does call her Kate in private and has been overheard saying it at events

Thats her name and she’s his wife. What would you expect him to call her? Duchess of Cambridge?Confused

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 18/08/2022 00:43

AtrociousCircumstance · 18/08/2022 00:36

This is such a bonkers thread 😂

Also see: woman in her own living room: “I’ll call the queen Lizzie if I like!”

🤣

So pointless. A lovely sorbet of pointlessness in a raging world of bad news.

You carry on, OP!

I was writing about how you'd refer to them in conversation not meeting them (if I ever met them I probably wouldn't call them anything)

For example "did you see the Duchess of Cambridge on the telly last night?" "The Duchess of Cornwall is opening a pig farm next week". It feels weird and I have to think about who they're talking about. And it's pretentious.

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ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 18/08/2022 00:44

ParanoidGynodroid · 18/08/2022 00:40

William does call her Kate in private and has been overheard saying it at events

Thats her name and she’s his wife. What would you expect him to call her? Duchess of Cambridge?Confused

Of course not.

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Changechangychange · 18/08/2022 00:51

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 17/08/2022 23:35

A couple of the people in that circle of friends are royal watchers, and one of them works with the daughter in law of one of the queen's senior staff so it does yes.

OP in the kindest possible way, the fact that one of their staff’s son’s wife’s work colleague’s friends calls them “Will and Kate” behind closed doors really won’t upset them. Honestly.

I know that for a fact, because my husband’s cousin’s plumber’s sister’s penfriend works in the gift shop in Windsor.

LoveMeForARaisin · 18/08/2022 01:03

I actually think people that call her Catherine are weird.

I mean i know it’s her name and all, but given that she is widely known as Kate in the media etc there is a weird, pompous formality to it.