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To call Kate and William

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ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 17/08/2022 23:31

Kate and William? If ever I talk about them with anyone, they're Kate and William. I was out last week with three friends and one of them brought them up in conversation "The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge ...." If she's feeling relaxed she might refer to her as Catherine.

Yes I know it is their official title(s) but it's a job title, not a name. And it feels weird to talk about someone in that way. I wouldn't talk about my boss as "the head of department", I would say Mark. Because that is his name.

I'm roughly the same age as Kate and William too, and I sort of "grew up" with him in the news etc, then when Kate came on the scene, she was just an ordinary person. I can't bow and scrape to either of them, in person or in conversation. That isn't disrespectful. Indeed, at the end of the day, they are simply people just like us (this is not a post to debate the usefulness of the royal family, if they're scroungers or lazy or should be cancelled, that's a whole other debate). William does call her Kate in private and has been overheard saying it at events.

So, Kate and William it will continue to be if I ever discuss them.

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HinchcliffeandMurgatroyd · 18/08/2022 01:08

Changechangychange · 18/08/2022 00:51

OP in the kindest possible way, the fact that one of their staff’s son’s wife’s work colleague’s friends calls them “Will and Kate” behind closed doors really won’t upset them. Honestly.

I know that for a fact, because my husband’s cousin’s plumber’s sister’s penfriend works in the gift shop in Windsor.

It’s the fanatical royalists that get upset.

MistyGreenAndBlue · 18/08/2022 01:11

People have called the Queen "Lizzie" for decades, so crack on. Grin

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 18/08/2022 06:54

Not what I was getting at in the least, but cheers anyway. How did you manage to infer that fgs,?

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ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 18/08/2022 06:55

@Changechangychange the post above was to you, quote didn't work.

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gunnersgold · 18/08/2022 07:12

How wanky!
Call them what you like ! 🙄

Leafblow · 18/08/2022 07:19

Yeah call them whatever you want its fine, but I do get confused when they are referred to as the duke and duchess of wherever, because I don't remember who that is.
The folks who use the official titles in casual conversation seem like the type of people who call it Mothering Sunday, instead of being normal and calling it Mother's day.

ShandaLear · 18/08/2022 07:23

You fill your boots. Call them whatever makes you happy.

Wonnle · 18/08/2022 07:28

I call them parasitic scumbags myself , doubt they will ever find out though

Reallybadidea · 18/08/2022 07:28

I couldn't vote because there was no option for "I don't give a shit"

Ridelikethewindypops · 18/08/2022 07:30

ParanoidGynodroid · 18/08/2022 00:40

William does call her Kate in private and has been overheard saying it at events

Thats her name and she’s his wife. What would you expect him to call her? Duchess of Cambridge?Confused

Only if it's a role play situation, where he's the lowly stable boy and she's a high born noble lady....

Rottenapples · 18/08/2022 07:31

Changechangychange · 18/08/2022 00:51

OP in the kindest possible way, the fact that one of their staff’s son’s wife’s work colleague’s friends calls them “Will and Kate” behind closed doors really won’t upset them. Honestly.

I know that for a fact, because my husband’s cousin’s plumber’s sister’s penfriend works in the gift shop in Windsor.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Catlover77 · 18/08/2022 07:33

Changechangychange · 18/08/2022 00:51

OP in the kindest possible way, the fact that one of their staff’s son’s wife’s work colleague’s friends calls them “Will and Kate” behind closed doors really won’t upset them. Honestly.

I know that for a fact, because my husband’s cousin’s plumber’s sister’s penfriend works in the gift shop in Windsor.

😂

Craver · 18/08/2022 07:35

In a world of global warming, pandemics, war and economic crisis who really cares what you call them?
They are leaches on the arse of little england

Numbat2022 · 18/08/2022 07:35

If you just said Kate and William with no context I wouldn't know who you were talking about, because they're barely on my radar. Duke and Duchess of Cambridge does at least explain that.

I think generally I refer to them as Kate Middleton and Prince William, so people know who I'm talking about? It would feel odd to just use their first names because I don't know them, and their names are very common - I'm the same age and I know a great many Kates! It's like talking about an actor or singer with a common name - you need a surname or some other qualifier.

The whole 'Catherine' thing is a bit odd, I think they want her to be known as Queen Catherine later in life as it's more formal but suspect that ship has sailed.

Despairingof · 18/08/2022 07:43

If you were my friend and you said with no context “Kate did xyz ” - I’d assume you meant our mutual friend Kate and be confused

Luredbyapomegranate · 18/08/2022 07:51

Ridelikethewindypops · 18/08/2022 07:30

Only if it's a role play situation, where he's the lowly stable boy and she's a high born noble lady....

@Ridelikethewindypops

STOP!!!! 😂

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 18/08/2022 08:08

Caff and Wazzo to me.

Arbesque · 18/08/2022 08:13

I find it strange on threads about the royal family when people call her Catherine. I'm never sure uf they're being super deferential or trying to imply they know her.

As usual, people rushing onto a thread about Kate and William to let us all know they have no interest in them.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 18/08/2022 08:19

I don't really talk about them but after thinking about the rare occasions I do, I call them Kate Middleton and her husband. I don't know why! Maybe subconsciously showing which one I think is more interesting out of a very uninteresting pair.

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 18/08/2022 08:22

Leafblow · 18/08/2022 07:19

Yeah call them whatever you want its fine, but I do get confused when they are referred to as the duke and duchess of wherever, because I don't remember who that is.
The folks who use the official titles in casual conversation seem like the type of people who call it Mothering Sunday, instead of being normal and calling it Mother's day.

Exactly! Yes!

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ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 18/08/2022 08:23

Despairingof · 18/08/2022 07:43

If you were my friend and you said with no context “Kate did xyz ” - I’d assume you meant our mutual friend Kate and be confused

Well no, it's got to be in context or people would think I'm talking about the Avon lady whose name is Kate.

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SleepingStandingUp · 18/08/2022 08:44

People are being deliberately obtuse because its the RF. You're clearly not talking about walking up to a mate randomly and asking "Did you see Katie's new coat?" or walking up to him and saying "Hey Wills, how's it hanging dude?"

Isn't the Catherine thing because apparently she was Catherine in private and Kate in the media so calling her Catherine was seen as more "look, I know the protocol / I know what she likes" kind of thing?

5foot5 · 18/08/2022 08:47

They don't come up in conversation all that often so I have never really thought about it. But now I do I realise I would always use their first names, though it doesn't strike me as odd to hear them addressed by their title in the news.

I suppose I would refer to all of them by their first names apart from The Queen and she is always just The Queen. It is he name.

5foot5 · 18/08/2022 08:49

*her name

MarshaMelrose · 18/08/2022 08:57

I thought he called her Catherine? Maybe I got that wrong.

I like both of them. I don't think they'd be bothered what you call them. They introduce themselves by their first names. The fact that you say their names shows you know who they are. And one day they'll be the King and the Queen. You won't even need to use first names then!