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To not understand why people adopt feral dogs from Eastern Europe?

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Elmore · 17/08/2022 22:59

I don’t get it, there’s thousands of dogs in the U.K. that need homes, so why go to the effort (and expense) of importing these wild street dogs?

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Mississipi71 · 17/08/2022 23:00

How does it affect you?

justasking111 · 17/08/2022 23:04

Have you tried to adopt a dog here the criteria is so limited. No children, no other pets, no going out to work, size of garden. That's why puppy farms exist

Elmore · 17/08/2022 23:05

The ones I’ve encountered have always been very aggressive and had owners that seemed a bit clueless, so I guess it’s a safety issue? I just wanna know why people feel the need? I get the feeling the dogs would be happier on the streets

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LimeTwists · 17/08/2022 23:06

Because feral street dogs are in more need? They have far worse lives and treatment than the unwanted dogs you can apply to adopt from UK shelters. I volunteered at the RSPCA kennels near me: the dogs are fed and sheltered, not running lose scavenging, sleeping on streets and being treated cruelly as vermin. Also, because UK shelters make perfectly good prospective owners jump through ridiculous hoops to adopt unwanted dogs, whereas charities overseas are a bit more grateful that people are bothering to apply.

Bubblebubblebah · 17/08/2022 23:07

Where did you get that it's feral dogs from the streets? Is it tha people just bring them back from holidays or something?

Dobbysgotthesocks · 17/08/2022 23:08

Err because they need homes, they make wonderful pets. They deserve a chance. A small minority of overseas rescues do have issues. Many do not. All deserve a chance.
I have a 2.5 year old gorgeous foreign rescue. She has her challenges (as did my uk bred dog) but is the most loving kind and gentle soul around.

Muminabun · 17/08/2022 23:08

A lot of ex street dogs are really well socialised with kids, dogs and cats so they can be more in demand. Uk rescue dogs often need adult only homes with no other pets which can make it difficult for families to adopt them and those with another dog or cat.

Goldencarp · 17/08/2022 23:09

Because it’s ridiculous trying to adopt here. We phoned our local rescue about 20 times and emailed too. No one ever got back to us so we tried another rescue and were not contacted after filling out quite a few adoption forms over a few months. In the end we bought a puppy. My daughter has a Romanian rescue who is the loveliest little thing. My sister also has two from Spain.

None if them were wild dogs just dogs that had had to be rescued from appalling conditions. A dog in need is a dog in need, doesn’t matter where it comes from, they still need love and care.

Brigante9 · 17/08/2022 23:13

This is why you don’t just adopt from abroad. This is not the only communicable disease. Heartbreaking for the owner to lose all of her dogs.
www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/heartbreak-woman-forced-put-down-24762841

Googlecanthelpme · 17/08/2022 23:13

You don’t get it?
Are you willing to get it? Or already determined on your opinion?

I guess it’s not unlike saying why do we support charities outside of your own community when there are issues that need resolving in your own town?
we have plenty of poverty in the UK so why are we bothering to import refugees from Ukraine?
Why support animal charities at all when you could support children charities. Why support food banks when you could support cancer research? It goes on and on.

Because people find an affinity where they find an affinity.

Dog shelters and animal charities in this country are generally well run and the dogs are looked after as best they can be until they are homed. Shelters in Romania are generally kill shelters. They put them to sleep if no one comes forward. Unless the private animal shelters can negotiate to take them.

they want to save the dogs from being put to sleep. They have to get them out of the country generally because of the high numbers and the limited adopters locally. Or the dogs will be destroyed.

I have had rescues from both here and abroad.

Longdistance · 17/08/2022 23:15

I can imagine it’s difficult to adopt here. I have friends adopt a dog from my parents country. Not sure why as dogs are looked after the same as the Uk. It could be the stringent rules here that have made them adopt from there.

Bluesycamore · 17/08/2022 23:17

Never understood why people are more upset about people adopting from abroad than buying puppies from breeders for £££ when there are dogs in need

Bubblebubblebah · 17/08/2022 23:19

Bluesycamore · 17/08/2022 23:17

Never understood why people are more upset about people adopting from abroad than buying puppies from breeders for £££ when there are dogs in need

The breeders are understandably ehm ehm

Meadowbreeze · 17/08/2022 23:23

Because it's neigh on impossible to adopt from RSPCA or any other big charity. The small charities are much more lax and those dogs get a home rather than eventually being put to sleep by these so called charities.

EhUpDuck · 17/08/2022 23:27

Because for several months I have tried:

The Blue Cross, the RSPCA, the Dogs’ Trust, Battersea, and multiple smaller local rescues, with 0 restrictions (I have applied to adopt dogs over 200 miles from me) beyond having a young child. I wfh full time, have always had dogs since a child, all of them rescues and have significant dog training experience in the family (dad works for hearing dogs). I would take any age dog, any size, any breed. Every rescue bar one said no dogs to suit me, none likely in the future. There was one shar pei in North Yorkshire on the blue cross site I got through an initial stage for and then was rejected without any direct contact with me (and she’s still live on their site, homeless). I don’t want a puppy. I was actually really upset at the thought of either having no dog for 7+ years til my child can fit in the ‘sensible secondary age child’ category that seems blanket or being forced to get a puppy that I went overseas again. I’ve had an elderly Romanian rescue and now waiting on one from Hungary (who lives with toddlers currently, I have video evidence for anyone concerned for my child and any hint of aggression and the dog will be returned, which I have told the rescue). I always hated when people moaned about UK rescues but it is genuinely completely impossible to get a rescue dog in the UK atm if you have a child younger than a teenager. Search ‘can live with any age children’ on any of those sites; you will get 0 dogs returned. It’s too much.

QuestionableMouse · 17/08/2022 23:27

Brigante9 · 17/08/2022 23:13

This is why you don’t just adopt from abroad. This is not the only communicable disease. Heartbreaking for the owner to lose all of her dogs.
www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/heartbreak-woman-forced-put-down-24762841

I was going to post that too.

We have enough rescue dogs here without importing them!

Brigante9 · 17/08/2022 23:28

So zoonotic diseases aren’t a problem?! You aren’t saying that foreign rescues are properly health tested before being imported? Because many are not. Please do read the link.
www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/heartbreak-woman-forced-put-down-24762841

Vieve1325 · 17/08/2022 23:30

I was dead, dead against it until I watched my mum try and adopt a UK rescue. She lives in a semi rural, three bedroom semi detached house with a massive garden, decades of dog ownership under her belt and letters from her employers saying she would be WFH permanently, and the dog would be welcome in the office should she wish to work from there etc. etc.

Not one rescue would entertain her.

She ended up adopting an 18 week old collie x shepherd from Romania and I have never met a more loving, kind, grateful dog and she makes my mum very happy and wants for nothing.

I wish breeding in the country was more regulated full stop to avoid as many dogs going into rescues as possible.

Elmore · 17/08/2022 23:31

So thanks to PPs I get that dog charities in the U.K. seem to be turning away a lot of prospective homes, but is importing dogs that have an unknown temperament and that could be carrying diseases responsible? The ones I’ve met were very badly behaved and aggressive, and i honestly think could be the next pit bulls

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GingerGloucester · 17/08/2022 23:34

Because all dogs (regardless of where they were born) deserve to be loved

Bubblebubblebah · 17/08/2022 23:35

Elmore · 17/08/2022 23:31

So thanks to PPs I get that dog charities in the U.K. seem to be turning away a lot of prospective homes, but is importing dogs that have an unknown temperament and that could be carrying diseases responsible? The ones I’ve met were very badly behaved and aggressive, and i honestly think could be the next pit bulls

Maybe consider that your friends might just not be good with dogs.

Elmore · 17/08/2022 23:41

Not my friends. For example I was in my local the other night and there was a dog that was howling constantly in between trying to eat a nearby Pom. The owner just said it was Romanian rescue as if that justified it.

Also, I think the trade just encourages people in the country of origin to round up strays to sell them for a profit. I’m not sure if that’s in anyone’s best interests?

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bloodyplanes · 17/08/2022 23:41

Trying to adopt a dog in the uk is harder than adopting a child!!!

ArcheryAnnie · 17/08/2022 23:42

Brigante9 · 17/08/2022 23:13

This is why you don’t just adopt from abroad. This is not the only communicable disease. Heartbreaking for the owner to lose all of her dogs.
www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/heartbreak-woman-forced-put-down-24762841

Oh my god that's just awful.

Bubblebubblebah · 17/08/2022 23:43

Elmore · 17/08/2022 23:41

Not my friends. For example I was in my local the other night and there was a dog that was howling constantly in between trying to eat a nearby Pom. The owner just said it was Romanian rescue as if that justified it.

Also, I think the trade just encourages people in the country of origin to round up strays to sell them for a profit. I’m not sure if that’s in anyone’s best interests?

So lots of random people just telling you their badly behaved agressive dogs are street dogs adopted from EE...sure.