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AIBU?

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To not send DD on Brownie camp?

57 replies

BrownieCampYesorNo · 13/08/2022 16:22

This is not about them money I won’t be asking for a refund and will still pay the rest of the money if she doesn’t go. But I have to decide this week if she goes so that the space can be offered up if she doesn’t.

DD is 8, it’s her first ever camp in October half term and is for 3 days/2 nights. Here the Rainbows don’t do them and the one she should have had in October last year was cancelled due to covid and nothing else arranged since. It’s not just DDs Brownies going another Brownies unit and the Guides are going so if she doesn’t go the space will be offered up and most likely filled (there’s 20-30 girls in each unit but only 50 places on camp).

DD has some SN and has always regressed at times. She has dyslexia and severe joint hypermobility syndrome, she’s also suspected dyspraxic. She has processing and memory issues, she can forget something two seconds after you say it, she can follow instructions but they need to be broken down a lot.

I’m not worried about her behaviour bar there being a 90% chance she’ll lose at least 1 item of clothing, she’s pretty well behaved. School have said they have no concerns about her around fire and she's always been fine with not touching a hot oven when at home so she's not likely to be a danger.

But she’s suddenly unable to do even the basics. As I said regression is normal during the big long summer but it’s almost like she’s regressed 4 years and is just about to start school, not just about to start Year 4.

She’s now unable to put on trousers; she gets both legs in one hole, she won’t allow me to help her gets upset and cries. She’s struggling with none laced shoes – as in she can’t even do up the tape or get them to stay on her feet. She can’t do buttons and never has been able to, she wanted a zip up hoodie on yesterday and couldn’t do the zip. She keeps losing things including her glasses which are kept in the same place usually but she keeps putting them down and forgetting where they are. She’s also falling over a lot more again when I thought we’d dealt with these issues.

I am of course going to try and contact the various people who’re involved with her care including the GP but the chances of being able to get any actual treatment before the camp is slim.

There is likely to be another camp around Easter but I won’t know for sure until around Christmas when they announce the calendar for 2023.

So AIBU to not send her? I feel guilty as she’s really excited about it but I don't know if I can consciously send her when she might make more work for the leaders.

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Marcipex · 13/08/2022 23:20

Send her.
I am continually saying You do one shoe and I’ll do the other
Does anyone need help doing their hair?
Can you see?! Let’s clean your glasses :)

She will probably do much more for herself when you’re not there. They just do.
I have had parents insist to me that their child can’t dress themselves ( they could)
it’s very common.
A child well known for his extreme self-imposed limited diet eg only ate cheese and crackers (specific brand) for a whole year, then switched to only ate pancakes (the cold pre-made ones) ate everything on the school week away. He has his parents jumping through hoops at every meal.
When no one bothered to do that, he ate all the food available. I only know because his peers were gobsmacked.

And the camp is so nearby, in a real difficulty you can go there.

Don’t forget, they are fostering independence but also kindness. Another child will help your dd and quite rightly, be praised for this.

Your dd can help someone else in her turn. And before you say she won’t be able to, I bet you anything that I could find something she can help someone else with.

BogRollBOGOF · 14/08/2022 00:03

As a Brownie leader and parent of neurodiverse child (inc dyspraxia & ASD) send her. Children learn so much from their peers and it's an environment that safely enourages pushing comfort zones and trying new things especially without expectations from previous attempts.

I've been on larger camps in seperate units to DS and have had chance to "spy" on DS and he does brilliantly. That's not to say that it's all been 100% hunky dory, but sometimes that's a learning experience in itself.

DS at 11 is still at the stage of having meltdowns at even suggesting non-velcro shoes which is getting awkward now his feet are bigger and choice is declining rapidly.

BrownieCampYesorNo · 04/10/2022 20:41

Thought I'd update

I spoke to Brown Owl who was really helpful and suggested we work personal goals around self care into everyday life so DD could go. So small targets that she;d be rewarded for, and if she got so many points she'd earn her Camp Stage 1, if DD gets her CS1 between now and camp she can go.

DDs loving it, setting her own targets now so each week she's getting more towards the CS1 badge and can see her progress as Brown Owls working with DD and her six to get her on camp.

I am so impressed, it's looking likely DD will get to go on Brownie Camp afterall!

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PumpkinDart · 04/10/2022 20:49

I'm really glad for your DD and also how amazing does her Brown Owl sound, excellent working together for you daughter ❤️

tickticksnooze · 04/10/2022 20:54

That sounds brilliant, op, what a clever plan.

Kanaloa · 05/10/2022 23:39

Aww bless her! So often they’re capable of much more than we think, but it can be hard to accept/allow others to help. I think it’s amazing how when we reach out (like to the brownie leaders) we usually find people are willing to help.

She must be feeling really confident too knowing that she’s working towards it.

DontBuyANewMumCashmere · 05/10/2022 23:48

What a lovely update OP! Congrats to your DD and well done to Brown Owl for facilitating.
It's really wonderful to see. I hope your DD has a lovely time and you are able to enjoy her success. ❤️

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