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Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think ‘hybrid working’ is a bit shit actually?

354 replies

OctopusDare · 13/08/2022 09:29

(Full disclosure: I’m really hoping all the replies are “YABU because my employer is doing it properly and it’s great”, to give me some hope to look elsewhere. Please also let me know if you’re hiring.)

My office job went WFH at the start of the pandemic. This was shit for those of us who don’t like WFH, but okay, pandemic. This year we have been trying ‘hybrid’ working. What this means is that coming into the office sometimes is ‘encouraged’. In practice it looks like this:

  • Senior people mostly don’t, except their bosses want them to, so what we get is them regularly hassling us to “have a conversation with your manager about what works for you and your team! But come in sometimes! But it’s entirely up to you! But also you should definitely come in sometimes,” on Zoom calls from their lovely garden offices.
  • About two-thirds of people say they want to work out of the office some of the week, but that they don’t want to go in if it’s nearly empty, they only want to go in if there are other people there to work with. And this never seems to get co-ordinated, so in practice people just… don’t go in because it’s empty because of all the other people who aren’t there because they don’t want to go in if it’s empty.
  • For those of us who are in, the office is bleak and weird to work from and feels like a post-apocalyptic disaster film.
  • Because of all this it’s really hard to train up new people to do anything other than very process-based work. We have lost some newer recruits because they felt like they weren’t getting to meet people or learn from them, and because they didn’t like the choice between working from home and working from a near-empty office on their own.
  • There is ENDLESS whining, on and on and on and on, from some of the people who want to WFH full-time and feel like they’re being ‘pressured’ to go back in. “But I am more productive from home!”, says the person who just emailed a distribution list of 40 of us to complain yet again at length about how much he hates offices.
  • Endless amounts of time trying to work out “hybrid ways of working” which all just end up the worst of both worlds. Like meetings - the rule is now that we encourage meetings to be in-person, but everyone in person should have their laptops in front of them with cameras on and talk to the camera, so that the people joining from home don’t feel left out. Which is rubbish. So people don’t do it and just work from home, which the managers then complain about, which… etc etc etc.
I liked the idea of hybrid working, but in practice it feels like the worst of both worlds. All the bad points of WFH except with added faff and stress and whining and uncertainty.

Are there places which are making this work? (And by ‘making this work’ I do not mean ‘the office is open for people who want it i suppose but I personally don’t leave my house’, we already have that, I mean a proper mix of in-person and at-home.) Or is hybrid just inevitably shit?

OP posts:
Trickedbyadoughnut · 28/03/2023 09:46

We have to be in at least two days a week (everyone, including managers) and we have to say the week before which days we'll be in and they circulate a schedule, although in reality most people come in on the same days each week, excepting changes for appointments or annual leave. Out of 35 in our department, three come in every day so there's always someone in at the same time. Three or four would still like to be full-time WFH, but our salary is linked to the area we live (expensive), so that's just unrealistic to me. I think everyone else is pretty happy with this.

OP, if you do decide to apply for other jobs, I think you just have to ask about the hybrid working in the interviews.

Scepticalwotsits · 03/04/2023 22:56

I don’t get a lot of the controversy pre Covid the job I had almost the entire office wfh Monday and Friday anyone who went in on these days did so on their own accord.

different roles and different personalities work better in some environments than others.

In my current role I am far more productive at home, partially because when I do go into the office although I don’t work in IT, because I am the most ‘techy’ I end up being used as IT support or helping people around the office with really basic things.

someone who on a computer doesn’t even know how to open up the meeting side panel on outlook and panics if they click it off by accident probably should be in the office full time for their own sanity and for their own productivity. Others who are technical who can get on with projects and their work and you don’t want being distracted a hybrid full wfh environment may suit both them and their employer.

it’s about the right people and flexibility in the right roles.

if I worked in a job where I wasn’t the only person doing my role and part of a team of people doing the same then maybe having us in the office would make more sense as it would mean we could work together and pass work around easier and help each other with what we are doing when we just need to have someone help check what we have done over our shoulder

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 03/04/2023 23:07

It doesn’t work the way you’ve described it, no.

Our work as three days a week in the office minimum, and so up to two at home if you wan , but you can work four or five days in the office if you prefer. I actually think saying two days minimum in the office is better than saying three, but it’s not me that’s in charge of it.

Gwenhwyfar · 06/04/2023 16:12

"doesn’t even know how to open up the meeting side panel "

What's the meeting side panel?
I get by with Outlook without having to ask for help every day btw.

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