To think people should chill with the hysterical doomsday threads

[elzober]

Before the pile on about minimising the difficulties people are having, I'm not saying there aren't serious challenges going on at the moment from climate to the cost of living. There's no denying any of that and I hope this crappy government will redeem themselves and take steps to help people.

But talk of apocalypse and the collapse of society is pretty OTT and I keep seeing the tin hat brigade commenting about their various conspiracy theories too.

It's a bit hysterical when you think there are people from from developing countries with hyperinflation, war on their doorstep and armed militias who had to flee to places like the UK for safety.

And yet food inflation is 9.8% and predicted to reach 20% in Q1 2023

www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-food-price-inflation-set-hit-20-citi-forecasts-2022-06-22/

Only 3% of jobs are zero hours. www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/datasets/emp17peopleinemploymentonzerohourscontracts

Some stats for you on poverty in the UK

1 in 5 people have negative disposable income

www.theguardian.com/business/2022/jul/25/fifth-of-uk-households-have-negative-disposable-income-shortfall-pounds-60-essential-rent-food

Plenty more stats available on household savings (or lack of), household disposable income...and we haven't even got to Winter yet.

So you may see people going out and about. Have you ever wondered about the lives of people you don't see?

What do you possibly think that that has to do with my question? Are you replying to the wrong post?

To ask it again, where is this Armageddon coming from? In what form will my doom arrive?

Mumsnet did explain that we have a prolific troll to thank for some of these apoplectic threads and posts

I was in military during and after it ended. You must not know how close we have gotten to nuclear war.

You were commenting on how life as normal seems to be carrying on because of the people who you see and the activities that they are doing.

My comment was to the lives of the people you can't see.

Will there be Armageddon? No. But I can't remember a time when we were at war and we had reduced energy supplies to our country which was forcing the price up at a time when many people are struggling to get by.

So who knows what will happen.

Good for you. But we didn't.

We are at war now. Putin is weaponising energy. This is real.

Maybe some people aren't worried.

Have you seen Don't Look Up?

I was asking a question about where this Armageddon will enter my normal, quiet street.

Taking your spin on it, though, where are you personally seeing the cracks forming?

What is worrying you?

What do you think should be worrying me?

Such the saddest and stupidest thread I've read on here in years.

Why do you think that ? What's your analysis ?

@cakeorwine
We are at war now. Putin is weaponising energy. This is real.

Thats the thing we are always involved in a war somewhere.
Putin is not weaponising energy, unless you’re referring to laser weapons which are in development both there and here. Mostly for zapping drones out of the sky (so they say) but if you can zap a drone, you can zap a manned aircraft or ground vehicle too.
Any hoo, refusing to sell gas to Europe isn’t weaponising energy, it is a type of economic sanction…so think about that…it’s really rare for us to be on the receiving end of an economic sanction. Usually we’re doing it to other countries and we sort of ignore the suffering of the civilian population that always is the result of economic sanctions. You do know their purpose is to try and make the populace so desperate that they riot, start a civil war, overthrow their government?

I think what they mean by weaponising energy is basically using energy as a bargaining chip, at the casino tablet so to speak.

@Hawkins001
If you can't disseminate this thread then I can't help you.

Sorry I've posted on the wrong thread!

It still hyperbole. Refusing to buy from or sell to a country because of something their government is doing is an economic sanction. We’ve dished them out many times and now it’s our turn to be on the receiving end.

So it's better to not look up ? Better to presume the gov't is completely honest, better to presume there is not more to human history than we are told, to presume their are no projects similar to the stargate ?

I'm guessing that's the infected ear thread ?

Er, what? You think that there could be government projects beaming people across the galaxy, or that there is some sort of hidden human history that the government knows that is kept from us?

That’s even more ridiculous than flat Earth theories. How could you possibly believe that either of these is true? The former goes against the laws of physics, the latter would require a conspiracy so large that it would fall apart in hours.

They were more generalisations as examples,

But laws of physics, who's to say we are fully correct in all areas of our knowledge ?
As for the large number of people, please, all you need is a strict military controls, a chain of command, then it broken down into teams of units, why do people presume large numbers equals someone will talk, even if they would, im.sure control measures would be in place to squash the information or discredit the information. don't forget the vast number of people when developing atomic weapons ? How would that be any different vast project, numerous groups, ect

And what if the stargate would operate at the quantum mechanics, level, as my basic knowledge is, our laws of physics breaks down at that point

@ImWell

This is from Google,

"How is quantum physics violating every rule known to man but regular physics isn't?
Regular physics is based on what natural philosophers, later known as scientists, observed around them. They put rigor to what we could see and therefore what corresponded to our common sense.

But there were “issues.” Certain things, pushed to the limit, didn’t make sense. Thus we get general relativity and quantum mechanics. GR and QM describe everything that we can test. Even in our macro world. But in their limiting cases they simplify to classical physics. We only experience this simpler limiting case. The full GR and/or QM explanation of things has no intuitive, instinctive equivalence. They don’t violate “every rule known to man,” but they do vastly complicate the rules we have from real-world experience.

As has been said many times, just get over it and do the math. It works. And yes, there are real world macro cases, where you have to apply GR or QM to get the right answer"

Have you heard of solitons? Bubbles that fold space in front of the space ship to go faster than light? All we need is for the space ship to have its own nuclear fission reactor or similar level energy source.