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364 replies

Junipercrumble · 12/08/2022 00:02

Apparently, it is NOT illegal for a stranger to take photographs or video clips of people, including their children in a public place. 😵

I, like many of my friends are astonished if this is true.

I wonder how many people are aware of this?

OP posts:
Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 12/08/2022 12:15

Oiduntbelieveit · 12/08/2022 12:12

www.theguardian.com/world/2004/nov/11/australia.mobilephones

An offence because of invasion of privacy to take someone's picture on the beach in Australia.

In Australia and pictures of topless women. That's very different from a clothed child. At least find a case relevant. You've tried upskirting cases, now topless, neither of which are relevant.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 12/08/2022 12:16

Oiduntbelieveit · 12/08/2022 12:14

Why are people defending taking a strangers picture in public? Why do they need to do that?

No one is defending it, just simply saying it's legal. No one has agreed with it.

CandyLeBonBon · 12/08/2022 12:17

Oiduntbelieveit · 12/08/2022 12:14

Why are people defending taking a strangers picture in public? Why do they need to do that?

Because it's perfectly legal. Street and documentary photography is a thing. Many famous photographers have taken photos of strangers in public.
Henri Cartier Bresson is world famous for it. So is Dorothy Bohm and Bruce Gilden and Weegee. It's not new!!

srey · 12/08/2022 12:17

Oiduntbelieveit · 12/08/2022 12:12

www.theguardian.com/world/2004/nov/11/australia.mobilephones

An offence because of invasion of privacy to take someone's picture on the beach in Australia.

Topless sunbathers photographed by a pervert in Australia.

Not even nearly the same.

srey · 12/08/2022 12:19

Oiduntbelieveit · 12/08/2022 12:14

Why are people defending taking a strangers picture in public? Why do they need to do that?

I'm not defending it.

I'm merely stating that is not illegal and that GDPR doesn't preclude it.

There's loads of famous street photographers.

And the average person taking a pic of kids at the park (note - not a pervert) has nothing to worry about.

srey · 12/08/2022 12:21

I'm more shocked at the utter tripe that's been posted on this thread as fact tbh.

Shade17 · 12/08/2022 12:22

OP’s next post will be about her shock that Santa doesn’t exist and that none of her friends knew either.

RuthBrenner · 12/08/2022 12:24

Oiduntbelieveit · 12/08/2022 12:12

www.theguardian.com/world/2004/nov/11/australia.mobilephones

An offence because of invasion of privacy to take someone's picture on the beach in Australia.

Well done on finding an article that doesn't prove your point whatsoever.

SerendipityJane · 12/08/2022 12:32

Oiduntbelieveit · 12/08/2022 12:14

Why are people defending taking a strangers picture in public? Why do they need to do that?

You can tell it's the school holidays. The public level of debate (never really Oxford Union standard anyway) has plummeted with a flood of posters struggling to distinguish between understanding something, and condoning/defending/supporting it.

I understand slavery (for example). Doesn't mean I defend it.

But that's a sign o' the times (and 'twas ever thus).

MrsOwainGlyndŵr · 12/08/2022 12:44

How can it possibly be illegal? It would be impossible to police for starters.
Every one can see the actual you, so seeing a photo of you can hardly be illegal. Your face and body aren't confidential information!

SerendipityJane · 12/08/2022 13:06

How can it possibly be illegal? It would be impossible to police for starters.

Practicality of enforcing laws has little to do with their drafting. Especially when politicians use laws to enforce their version of morality.

ImWell · 12/08/2022 13:07

Oiduntbelieveit · 12/08/2022 12:12

www.theguardian.com/world/2004/nov/11/australia.mobilephones

An offence because of invasion of privacy to take someone's picture on the beach in Australia.

And what do you think that that has to do with the question of the legality in the UK?

What’s your agenda here? You are linking to pages that absolutely don’t claim what you pretend that they do, you are linking to laws in foreign countries; why?

You are lying about what GDPR says too. You seem completely unwilling to accept or understand what the law is in the UK on this.

ImWell · 12/08/2022 13:10

Oiduntbelieveit · 12/08/2022 12:14

Why are people defending taking a strangers picture in public? Why do they need to do that?

People are patiently and politely pointing out the law to you, not saying that they “need” to take pictures of others’ children.

One more time though, there is no law against someone taking a photograph of your children when they are out in public. Not GDPR, not an Australian law about photography on beaches. It’s entirely possible that someone may manage to break another law while in the process of trying to take a picture, but that still doesn’t make the taking of the picture illegal.

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 12/08/2022 13:33

It's true, it's not illegal, but it should be. Especially as the schools go fucking batshit if you try to take a picture of your OWN CHILD at a Nativity Play/School Concert/Sports Day etc...

YANBU @Junipercrumble

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 12/08/2022 13:34

Shade17 · 12/08/2022 12:22

OP’s next post will be about her shock that Santa doesn’t exist and that none of her friends knew either.

Santa doesn't exist???

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAA? Shock

ReneBumsWombats · 12/08/2022 13:34

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 12/08/2022 13:33

It's true, it's not illegal, but it should be. Especially as the schools go fucking batshit if you try to take a picture of your OWN CHILD at a Nativity Play/School Concert/Sports Day etc...

YANBU @Junipercrumble

Schools aren't public grounds.

You don't think people should be allowed to take pictures of streetscapes or beach sunsets? Photojournalism should be illegal?

SoupDragon · 12/08/2022 13:36

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 12/08/2022 13:33

It's true, it's not illegal, but it should be. Especially as the schools go fucking batshit if you try to take a picture of your OWN CHILD at a Nativity Play/School Concert/Sports Day etc...

YANBU @Junipercrumble

schools are not the same as a public space so it's not at all comparable.

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 12/08/2022 13:36

ReneBumsWombats · 12/08/2022 13:34

Schools aren't public grounds.

You don't think people should be allowed to take pictures of streetscapes or beach sunsets? Photojournalism should be illegal?

Delicious twisting of my words there.

That's quite some skill. Have a carrot. 🥕

ReneBumsWombats · 12/08/2022 13:41

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 12/08/2022 13:36

Delicious twisting of my words there.

That's quite some skill. Have a carrot. 🥕

Hey, thanks. <<eats carrot>> 🥕

So, how was it twisting your words?

ImWell · 12/08/2022 13:45

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 12/08/2022 13:33

It's true, it's not illegal, but it should be. Especially as the schools go fucking batshit if you try to take a picture of your OWN CHILD at a Nativity Play/School Concert/Sports Day etc...

YANBU @Junipercrumble

Of course it shouldn’t be illegal.

clary · 12/08/2022 13:47

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 12/08/2022 13:33

It's true, it's not illegal, but it should be. Especially as the schools go fucking batshit if you try to take a picture of your OWN CHILD at a Nativity Play/School Concert/Sports Day etc...

YANBU @Junipercrumble

They don’t tho. Or not without good reason (ie a specific child protection issue).

I have films and pix from my dcs’ school shows and sports days.

Oiduntbelieveit · 12/08/2022 14:06

There needs to be legal protection to safeguard women and children.

ImWell · 12/08/2022 14:10

Oiduntbelieveit · 12/08/2022 14:06

There needs to be legal protection to safeguard women and children.

We already have laws for this. Maybe more are needed, but definitely not around having photographs taken in a public place.

What harm are you imagining would come to you if I took a picture with you in the background?

Have you accepted yet that you are completely wrong in your posts above about the current legal,situation?

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srey · 12/08/2022 14:13

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He's in Dublin. For a start.

Second. That was in a swimming pool. Private places can impose whatever rules they like.

This does not relate to the op of people taking pictures out and about.