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joggiegrey · 09/08/2022 22:40

Thatswhyimacat · 09/08/2022 22:34

My whole life I've had an irrational fear that my thoughts can affect the outside world.

I was then diagnosed with obsessive compulsive disorder, of which magical thinking is a symptom.

I'd love to hear more. What type of things would you think?

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RicherThanYew · 09/08/2022 22:45

Op, when I was a child I was abused and neglected. I told myself that I was responsible for it, and that if I could just be better and focus my thoughts on being better that it would stop and life would be ok again. No amount of positivity or being better had any impact on how I was treated, and believe me, I prayed for deliverance. So please rest assured that thoughts do not manifest, you'll be fine.

StoneofDestiny · 09/08/2022 23:09

If you could 'manifest' your thoughts - please crack on with thinking we need more rain, especially at night, we need reduced energy costs, and a decent government in number 10.

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joggiegrey · 10/08/2022 11:47

RicherThanYew · 09/08/2022 22:45

Op, when I was a child I was abused and neglected. I told myself that I was responsible for it, and that if I could just be better and focus my thoughts on being better that it would stop and life would be ok again. No amount of positivity or being better had any impact on how I was treated, and believe me, I prayed for deliverance. So please rest assured that thoughts do not manifest, you'll be fine.

I'm so sorry @RicherThanYew

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Nunckybunchchuck · 10/08/2022 12:26

Life might be going in the opposite direction. Ever thought of that? 😂

BrownStripePJ · 10/08/2022 12:41

I think it's your reticular activating system. How many times have you thought of these people and they have NOT contacted you. But you only REMEMBER/connect the times that they did contact you.

PineForestsAndSunshine · 10/08/2022 12:42

There's an awful lot we don't understand about existence, most of which is outside the scope of our current scientific knowledge.

Coincidences, however, are easily explained. They are mathematically inevitable. Human confirmation bias makes us forget the one million times we thought something and it didn't happen.

Plus our brains all work in similar ways and respond subconsciously to social cues, so it's not very surprising that two people may come up with the same random memory at the same time.

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joggiegrey · 11/08/2022 16:14

Nunckybunchchuck · 10/08/2022 12:26

Life might be going in the opposite direction. Ever thought of that? 😂

How do you mean?

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joggiegrey · 11/08/2022 16:14

PineForestsAndSunshine · 10/08/2022 12:42

There's an awful lot we don't understand about existence, most of which is outside the scope of our current scientific knowledge.

Coincidences, however, are easily explained. They are mathematically inevitable. Human confirmation bias makes us forget the one million times we thought something and it didn't happen.

Plus our brains all work in similar ways and respond subconsciously to social cues, so it's not very surprising that two people may come up with the same random memory at the same time.

I appreciate this, thank you!

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Choopi · 11/08/2022 16:20

A while back I had a dream that someone I knows dog got hit by a car. I woke up so upset and was going to message them and say just keep an extra eye on your dog but knew that would crazy. 3 days later he broke the fence down, got hit by a car and died and the owner was devastated. The thing is though I have dreams all of the time, bad feelings all of the time and none it comes true. It was just a coincidence. As humans we have a lot of thoughts, of course some of them are going to actually happen sometimes and those are the ones we remember, not the millions of other thoughts thay came to nothing.

MarshaMelrose · 11/08/2022 16:32

When I was a child, I had a favourite aunt and uncle. One Saturday lunch day when I was about 11, Dad came into the kitchen and was telling mum about someone getting a divorce. I hadn't heard who it was so I asked. And dad asked me who I thought. (Why would did dad ask that? Thus is all his fault!) Off the top of my head, I said Uncle Jim and Auntie Gloria. Dad said no and told me it was someone at the top of the road.
A week or so later dad announced at tea that he'd spoken to Uncle Jim and he and Auntie Gloria were splitting up. I was devastated. I realised it was down to me. I could have picked any names but because I picked them, I'd doomed their marriage. 😔 Of course, later, i developed that thought further and came to the realisation that I had the power to split up anyone if I just named them. (Maybe that's when my megalomaniac tendencies started. Bwah ha ha ha. 😂 )
Of course I now know it was all just coincidence. And yet, in a small corner of my mind, I can't help thinking....

NewBootsAndRanty · 11/08/2022 16:37

Sandinmyknickers · 09/08/2022 17:30

If coincidences didn't exist there wouldn't be a word for them

Absolutely this.

See also: unicorns.

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joggiegrey · 11/08/2022 17:29

MarshaMelrose · 11/08/2022 16:32

When I was a child, I had a favourite aunt and uncle. One Saturday lunch day when I was about 11, Dad came into the kitchen and was telling mum about someone getting a divorce. I hadn't heard who it was so I asked. And dad asked me who I thought. (Why would did dad ask that? Thus is all his fault!) Off the top of my head, I said Uncle Jim and Auntie Gloria. Dad said no and told me it was someone at the top of the road.
A week or so later dad announced at tea that he'd spoken to Uncle Jim and he and Auntie Gloria were splitting up. I was devastated. I realised it was down to me. I could have picked any names but because I picked them, I'd doomed their marriage. 😔 Of course, later, i developed that thought further and came to the realisation that I had the power to split up anyone if I just named them. (Maybe that's when my megalomaniac tendencies started. Bwah ha ha ha. 😂 )
Of course I now know it was all just coincidence. And yet, in a small corner of my mind, I can't help thinking....

Today I learned I'm a megalomaniac..

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Quia · 11/08/2022 17:53

Think about the millions of times you think about something or someone and absolutely nothing happens. Think about all the times you've wanted something and didn't get it. That will tell you whether there is any such thing as manifestation.

Underanothersky · 11/08/2022 18:01

But you must link about loads of people every day. How often do they connect with you?

juicyjan · 11/08/2022 18:16

You see, someone told me 30 odd years ago that if you 100% focus your eye-gaze across a crowded space on the guy you fancy, he'll notice and smile at you, opening the way for further flirtation.

So there I was in Cardiff one day looking at this gorgeous bloke dancing outside in the Hayes marketplace. Did exactly that. Stared intensely at his back. Lo and behold it worked! He turned around and noticed.

I was too scared to take it further and of him thinking 'who the fuck is this nutter of a woman who keeps staring hard at me..?'

Hotseatpants · 11/08/2022 18:52

@MarshaMelrose

perhaps you’d subconsciously noticed that things were not great between your aunt and uncle?

As a teenager I had a dream that my best friend’s parents were getting divorced as the Dad was having an affair. I nearly told my friend as the dream was so ridiculous. They were very religious for one thing. Guess what, a few days later it was confirmed to be true. I must have picked up on something being wrong but subconsciously.

HinchcliffeandMurgatroyd · 11/08/2022 18:54

I thought I was having a bad day (week) but now I’m just happy that manifestation is one thing I don’t need to stress about. Cheers OP.

CookPassBabtridge · 11/08/2022 18:55

joggiegrey · 09/08/2022 16:00

Exactly as title says. 3 days ago, I was discussing someone I've not been on good terms with for a year or so.

An hour ago, they just attempted to follow me on social media. We have no mutuals. So no way we have any connection.

This happened to me last year with someone I knew 5 years ago and hadn't spoke to, and 10 mins later they texted me.

This terrifies me because what if my thoughts do manifest? And it's that law of attraction bollocks? I get so many negative thoughts, I really don't want it to happen

Not sure I believe in it but this stuff sure is weird when it happens. I recently got back in touch with an old friend, not seen her since school.. so 20 years. We messaged for an evening and it was lovely. Next day I bump into her in a big city neither of us live near! Never bumped into her in the previous 20 years. It felt like fate.

MarshaMelrose · 11/08/2022 19:06

Hotseatpants · 11/08/2022 18:52

@MarshaMelrose

perhaps you’d subconsciously noticed that things were not great between your aunt and uncle?

As a teenager I had a dream that my best friend’s parents were getting divorced as the Dad was having an affair. I nearly told my friend as the dream was so ridiculous. They were very religious for one thing. Guess what, a few days later it was confirmed to be true. I must have picked up on something being wrong but subconsciously.

I'm certainly not aware that I thought that but years later when I wascan adult and I was discussing it with my mum and dad, they both said that everyone could see it wasn't going to last - my uncle loved her a lot more than she did him, and she thought he was a boring and a stick in the mud. So it came as no surprise to them. So, it's an interesting thought and you could very well be right that I was subconsciously picking up signals.
However, friends and family won't like that explanation. They thought they knew the reason for my megalomania but now they'll know I'm just a power-hungry, know-it-all by nature. Hehe.
And just in case anyone is worried about my ababdoned Uncle Jim, he went on to marry the most lovely of women, very maternal and who adored him. They had a very happy marriage for many years til he died in 2018.