To think that very few people can manage £4200 energy bills

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This simply isn’t manageable for the majority of people.

Where’s this going to end?

We used to have a Chinese every week - we don’t now as the quality is poor and it’s more expensive. We used to pay about £40 - same now £55.

We used to have a Friday night takeaway. It's now an occasional treat. I go to Aldi now and get either ready meals or tapas bits instead. Based on what I've read on here and what my friends say, take aways are going to struggle.

We were just talking about our local Chinese restaurant last night. We get a takeaway maybe once a month or so, but I don't know if we'll carry on over the winter and/or how they will keep the place open. After scraping through a pandemic, how are they going to pay the energy bills to keep going this winter?

I imagine most restaurants will either go under or reduce their days.

I think a lot of hospitality type places will go bust. They will have the double whammy of their own rising bills, energy and raw materials/ingredients. Plus staff wanting pay rises. Plus people tightening their belts and not going out as much/not getting as many take aways. Which is just going to add to the economical issues when there’s more unemployment.

Surely it’s cheaper for the government to somehow pay the majority of these bills rather than do very little and watch the fallout?
People losing jobs, businesses closing and people freezing to death. Surely this is economically more disastrous than the inevitable consequences?

Now there are stories about it possibly going up to 6k next year!! It feels like never ending doom. I just want to hide under a rock(a rather warm rock).

Last night DP and I opened two tins of something we had in the cupboard and had it with rice and homegrown tomatoes and herbs. (Don’t all clamour at once.)

Our local takeaway on my road does does seem terribly quiet.

Yup. I just read about yet another place which I never guessed would be the victim, announcing closure.

We will be left with Wetherspoons and maccies if this keeps going. It's alway sad to see independent places who were good closing because the last few years and what's ahead killed them.

Some cash and carries are still selling veg cooking oil for 40 quid a canister. Brakes for 45... If anyone here needs, costco has 20l ktc for 32.99 now.

Why isn’t the government getting it? Most of us can’t afford to pay these bills?

Because they do not give a shit
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My manager thinks people like us with 'stable jobs' would be fine, it's only people like her cleaner who would be affected. I didn't feel like telling her it's 66% of households who would be affected by January. I imagine a lot of people are still telling themselves they wouldn't be affected and the government is banking on it staying this way...

People are in denial
Including my own children
Heads in the sand

It’s getting worse- it could be £6000 per year. Just watching BBC news now.

Yep, 6 k a year , 500 a month.
It is just so grim, even with the help in October

I am still holding to hope that it will all collapse, we will get annexed by EU and bills will go back to normal.
On the other hand, my practical brain is looking at some suitable countries to move onto

Why isn’t the government getting it? Most of us can’t afford to pay these bills?

Why would a government of millionaire Old-Etonians/Wykehamists and ultra-right-wing manics care about that?

Maybe?

it's a ship without a captain after mutiny on the bounty lol

6 k a year is more than some people pay in mortgage payments . It’s beyond ludicrous!

Ive cut my electric useage as much as i can.
Assuming my consumption stays steady (about 2kwh/day), the capped rate I'm being offered with octopus is going to cost almost £500/year just to run a fridge freezer, use energy saving lightbulbs efficiently, charge my mobile, listen to the radio (no tv/wifi/laptop/other devices), use the kettle once a day, and wash an eco laundry load once a week.

Central London however restaurant wise etc is still absolutely packed. There’s a lot of affluent young people happy to spend.

Lol, because they're how we judge the cost of living.

It's the standing charges that cripple us , not what you actually use.

The centre of London is certainly back to pre-Covid levels of busyness. The pound is weak at the moment, plenty of tourists taking advantage of that.