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To no longer support strike action?

112 replies

Sobloodydone · 08/08/2022 12:55

I live in Liverpool where there is currently a bus workers strike going on, entering its 4th week after a walk out demanding pay that meets inflation. They have been offered in increase that they turned down claiming it wasn’t enough.

I am beyond frustrated now as the entire city is pretty much out of action in regards to public transport. It’s costing £25 a day in taxis to get to work who have said no working from home and threatening termination if attendance is missed. It’s just not sustainable!

I am working class and long supported strikes and many people have the opinion we should be supporting them no questions asked but what about the thousands of people they are affecting? Nobody is getting the price of inflation matched within their wages. Supposed to believe we’re all in it together when supporting them but what about everyone else who can’t get to work/hospital/shops/see their elderly family?! It’s an indefinite walk out so god knows what will happen if kids can’t get to school in 3 weeks!

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Aishah231 · 09/12/2022 18:19

So you support strikes when they don't inconvenience you OP. Strikes are supposed to bloody inconvenience people. The striking bus drivers aren't getting paid they are suffering too. Blame the government which has ordered companies which receive subsides/contracts from them noy to negotiate properly - I e offer something they know will be rejected.

pointythings · 09/12/2022 18:23

Strikes are supposed to hurt. My family are being heavily affected by the train strikes, but we continue to support them. If we do not, we'll be next to have our terms and conditions chipped away at and the fat cats will have got away with it.

Think about why it is that the rich need to be incentivised by giving them more money, but regular workers need to have things made worse in order to improve their productivity...

pigonalipstick · 09/12/2022 18:28

'Strikes are supposed to hurt'

Yes they're supposed to hurt big conglomerates, unfair employers, or governments!!

They're not supposed to be deliberately targeted to hurt ordinary working people, costing them income or denying them parts of their life. So planning strikes to be on glastonbury weekend, big sports final weekends, the big Christmas party week and Christmas shopping weekend is just mean

DrManhattan · 09/12/2022 18:29

@pigonalipstick totally missing the point of strikes

100% support to the strikers and their rights to strike

pigonalipstick · 09/12/2022 18:31

Could you please explain @DrManhattan?

I do support them, but I also think they've been badly organised. It can be both!

Eleganz · 09/12/2022 18:37

barneshome · 09/12/2022 13:46

If you are not getting paid enough - change your job

Many have. Over 130,000 vacancies in the NHS. I work in another part of the public sector and we are losing at lot of experienced people and struggling to recruit anyone with any experience at all and with next to no training budgets.

So you can "get another job" all you like, but that won't help deliver good public services.

Eleganz · 09/12/2022 18:39

pigonalipstick · 09/12/2022 18:28

'Strikes are supposed to hurt'

Yes they're supposed to hurt big conglomerates, unfair employers, or governments!!

They're not supposed to be deliberately targeted to hurt ordinary working people, costing them income or denying them parts of their life. So planning strikes to be on glastonbury weekend, big sports final weekends, the big Christmas party week and Christmas shopping weekend is just mean

The problem is that hurting the income stream of these companies is how you hurt them. Sadly for many the customers (income stream) are other ordinary working people.

Cheesuswithallama · 09/12/2022 18:47

Aishah231 · 09/12/2022 18:19

So you support strikes when they don't inconvenience you OP. Strikes are supposed to bloody inconvenience people. The striking bus drivers aren't getting paid they are suffering too. Blame the government which has ordered companies which receive subsides/contracts from them noy to negotiate properly - I e offer something they know will be rejected.

Actually they do get some money off strike funds. Some unions up contributions before strikes.
But of course it doesn't equal to wages by faaar

Greenfairydust · 09/12/2022 19:18

Actually I am starting to agree with you although I truly hate this government.

The train strike for instance has been going on forever and it is getting ridiculous now.

Almost not trains for the entire week next week in the South East.

Most of us need to travel for work and so on and that amount of disruption is just totally unjustified.

I did support the strikes but I no longer do because at this stage it is having a horrendous impact on the general public while the government just does not give a damn.

I have not had a pay rise, I work for a homeless charity and the strikes are messing up my life. So my solidarity should not be taken for granted either.

DrManhattan · 09/12/2022 20:20

@Greenfairydust get mad with this shit show tory government rather than the strikers. If you use the trains you should be supporting them imo.

Clavinova · 09/12/2022 20:47

CEOs of FTSE100 companies got an average of 23% rise last year
there's no belt tightening "we're all struggling" for those ...

Only half of the story though:

August 2021
FTSE 100 bosses see median pay drop 17% in pandemic year

www.standard.co.uk/business/ftse-100-news-bosses-covid-pandemic-pay-drop-b951350.html

July 2021
LONDON, July 2 (Reuters) - The median pay of chief executives at Britain's top companies fell for the fourth straight year to 2.85 million pounds ($3.92 million) in 2020, consultants Deloitte said on Friday.
The drop, from 3.3 million pounds in 2019, came as many bosses took pay and bonus cuts in response to the hit to revenues caused by the COVID-19 pandemic, and after pressure from investors to rein in remuneration.

www.reuters.com/world/uk/ftse-100-median-ceo-pay-falls-fourth-year-row-deloitte-2021-07-02/

Greenfairydust · 10/12/2022 19:42

''@DrManhattan · Yesterday 20:20
@Greenfairydust get mad with this shit show tory government rather than the strikers. If you use the trains you should be supporting them imo.''

I was supporting them until now but an entire week of strike is ridiculous and destructive.

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