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Not paying for childcare this autumn as bills go up

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Essenceandvibes · 08/08/2022 10:35

I've just had an epiphany.....I absolutely won't be paying a penny for childcare this autumn as bills increase and I won't be made to feel guilty about it either. I can work from home and watch my baby and pick up my 10 year old from school without the assistance of anyone else and if my employer has an issue with it, he can pay an extra £2000 per month post tax to cover the cost of full time help.

Our bills are going to be about £800 a month just electricity and gas alone for our detached 4 bed house, this isn't even thinking about the increase of petrol or groceries.

The mortgage has also gone up a few hundred quid too....childcare and commuting is now a luxury not necessity and I really hope every parent joins me in asking for employers like it or lump it

Shameful the government have let everything get this far, the knock on effects will be huge

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Dalaidramailama · 08/08/2022 12:16

@pedropony76

My mother didn’t pay her poll tax back in the day and us kids even made up a song about it!

She was dragged into court in the end mind and ordered to pay every single penny back or face eviction.

Lots of people are actually planning ahead some more radically than others with downsizing etc. I’m working class and it’s only my middle class mates that are shitting themselves. Just my own personal observation.

butterflied · 08/08/2022 12:17

How is it 2k a month on childcare when one kid is 10? That sounds insane.

TheKeatingFive · 08/08/2022 12:17

I could shit on my head of departments hand and wouldn't get fired. I bring too much to the business and they took 9 months to recruit for me in the first place

Only a tiny proportion of employees are in this position.

Most of those are smart enough to understand that. Some are deluded in terms of their importance.

Just10moreminutesplease · 08/08/2022 12:17

I agree with you in principle OP, but I’d be really concerned about how well you (or anyone!) could look after a baby whilst working. Surely they wouldn’t end up getting enough interaction?

I guess people do it when they are desperate, I’ve definitely heard of Americans WFH with small children. But I don’t think it would be a good thing for it to be normalised. I’m not sure what the answer is though.

rainbowmilk · 08/08/2022 12:17

Essenceandvibes · 08/08/2022 12:12

Because we're in the middle of a baby shortage to the point where they're considering taxing childless people

Parents have never had more political leverage than right now

Who is considering taxing childless people (apart from MN)?

FourTeaFallOut · 08/08/2022 12:17

And what are all you active political mobilisers doing today while you all point your finger at those you call passive?

HesterShaw1 · 08/08/2022 12:18

Because we're in the middle of a baby shortage to the point where they're considering taxing childless people

No "they" are not considering it. It has been suggested by a demographer, but there is no hint that it is being taken seriously. It would be political suicide for a starters.

Like for like OP - if you refuse to pay for childcare to look after your children, then I will refuse to pay my childless tax to fund things for those children. Only fair.

rainbowmilk · 08/08/2022 12:19

Essenceandvibes · 08/08/2022 12:11

I'd offer to hold the baby for her if I had the time and mine was napping actually 🤷🏽‍♀️

What are you doing in your ten year old’s classroom?

So many questions.

PersonaNonGarter · 08/08/2022 12:20

This is so ridiculous. I am stunned that you think you should get paid when you are looking after a baby, OP.

Don’t lose your job on top of your money worries.

Unfortunately, the way out of our current economic crisis is to improve productivity. What you are suggesting is the exact opposite. It’s not a solution to the problem at all.

Essenceandvibes · 08/08/2022 12:20

TheKeatingFive · 08/08/2022 12:15

If you want to protest about the price of energy go organise that. But breaking the terms of your employment contract to somehow make this your employers problem is a dumb strategy.

Methinks you have misunderstood the whole concept of civil disobedience?

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FinneusMum · 08/08/2022 12:20

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TheKeatingFive · 08/08/2022 12:21

It's like the OP's in a parallel universe

girlmom21 · 08/08/2022 12:22

Essenceandvibes · 08/08/2022 12:15

If you work for the NHS or do another service job I'm aware this obviously can't apply to you....however I think you should all be out there striking for at least a 20% pay rise personally 🤷🏽‍♀️

If you think you're worth a 20% pay increase ask for it with justification and evidence.

Essenceandvibes · 08/08/2022 12:22

Just10moreminutesplease · 08/08/2022 12:17

I agree with you in principle OP, but I’d be really concerned about how well you (or anyone!) could look after a baby whilst working. Surely they wouldn’t end up getting enough interaction?

I guess people do it when they are desperate, I’ve definitely heard of Americans WFH with small children. But I don’t think it would be a good thing for it to be normalised. I’m not sure what the answer is though.

I guess if my attention is torn between my baby and my job.....it will just be my job that has to suffer 🤷🏽‍♀️

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rainbowmilk · 08/08/2022 12:22

I think those sectors that are crying out for staff are particularly in need of staff that are going to do some work, though…

TheKeatingFive · 08/08/2022 12:22

There are entire sectors crying out for qualified and skilled staff

Staff who can't focus on the job because they're minding a baby aren't much use however.

lastminutedotcom22 · 08/08/2022 12:22

Essenceandvibes · 08/08/2022 12:15

If you work for the NHS or do another service job I'm aware this obviously can't apply to you....however I think you should all be out there striking for at least a 20% pay rise personally 🤷🏽‍♀️

A 20% rise would be amazing But very unlikely to happen

They're giving lower grades band 5 and under) £1400 A year extra which is a drop in the ocean

However it is not the NHS's responsibility to pay my utility bills or my childcare

Essenceandvibes · 08/08/2022 12:23

girlmom21 · 08/08/2022 12:22

If you think you're worth a 20% pay increase ask for it with justification and evidence.

I don't work for the NHS but I do think people who do deserve more than claps on a bloody Thursday for the way they got us through the pandemic

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Corlegg · 08/08/2022 12:23

Will you choose to neglect your job or your child or a bit of both?

TheKeatingFive · 08/08/2022 12:23

I guess if my attention is torn between my baby and my job.....it will just be my job that has to suffer

Gosh, I've absolutely no idea why your employer wouldn't be on board with this great plan.

Cervinia · 08/08/2022 12:23

Don’t be ridiculous, of course you can’t work from home with a baby and also
nip out to
do the school run and snacks and entertainment after school. Epiphany? Good grief.

rainbowmilk · 08/08/2022 12:23

On the one hand OP is definitely trolling but on the other I work with people who talk and act exactly like this.

Dalaidramailama · 08/08/2022 12:23

@rainbowmilk

Indeed and many of those sectors involve being out of the home.

Essenceandvibes · 08/08/2022 12:23

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Exactly

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