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Not paying for childcare this autumn as bills go up

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Essenceandvibes · 08/08/2022 10:35

I've just had an epiphany.....I absolutely won't be paying a penny for childcare this autumn as bills increase and I won't be made to feel guilty about it either. I can work from home and watch my baby and pick up my 10 year old from school without the assistance of anyone else and if my employer has an issue with it, he can pay an extra £2000 per month post tax to cover the cost of full time help.

Our bills are going to be about £800 a month just electricity and gas alone for our detached 4 bed house, this isn't even thinking about the increase of petrol or groceries.

The mortgage has also gone up a few hundred quid too....childcare and commuting is now a luxury not necessity and I really hope every parent joins me in asking for employers like it or lump it

Shameful the government have let everything get this far, the knock on effects will be huge

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yougotthelook · 08/08/2022 12:23

Essenceandvibes · 08/08/2022 12:15

If you work for the NHS or do another service job I'm aware this obviously can't apply to you....however I think you should all be out there striking for at least a 20% pay rise personally 🤷🏽‍♀️

You are clearly goading and loving the attention.
Your nanny costs you £500 a week?
Yeah right.
Stop stirring up the shit it's pathetic

FinneusMum · 08/08/2022 12:24

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girlmom21 · 08/08/2022 12:24

@Essenceandvibes no but you think your employer should pay your childcare costs

TheKeatingFive · 08/08/2022 12:25

Having them half there is better is not at all

I don't think they agree. Given that most will have a childcare requirement in their contract.

What do you think happened during lockdown? Millions of people WFh whilst looking after babies and children and workplaces managed just fine

😂

Lockdown was an absolute shitshow for all concerned

Essenceandvibes · 08/08/2022 12:25

TheKeatingFive · 08/08/2022 12:23

I guess if my attention is torn between my baby and my job.....it will just be my job that has to suffer

Gosh, I've absolutely no idea why your employer wouldn't be on board with this great plan.

Have you worked out that I don't give a f*ck yet what my employer thinks?

Increase my pay to keep up with inflation and I might start 🙃

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Iamthewombat · 08/08/2022 12:25

FourTeaFallOut · 08/08/2022 12:06

We're going to participate in dontpayuk 🙌🏾

So you are switching your direct debit to a more costly pay as you go option? Radical. Stick to the man. That'll teach them.

Not only that. She’ll collect a few CCJs to add to her UB40, or whatever it is now.

rainbowmilk · 08/08/2022 12:26

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They managed “just fine” because either work didn’t get done and employers and the public accepted that, the parents went half mental working during the night, or in my case the childless people did thousands of hours of unpaid overtime. None of those was “just fine”. Which one are you proposing we return to?

girlmom21 · 08/08/2022 12:26

I could shit on my head of departments hand and wouldn't get fired. I bring too much to the business and they took 9 months to recruit for me in the first place

Sounds like they managed for 9 months without you...

caringcarer · 08/08/2022 12:26

Try a childminder. They are cheaper than nursery and for a baby I think nicer. You do know we are likely to have a recession OP. Many people will lose, what they thought were safe jobs. You should not be giving your employer a reason to select you for redundancy. My gas and electricity for 6 bedroom house is £430 pcm even with increase in October hoping not £600. Cost of inflation not your employers fault.

butterflied · 08/08/2022 12:26

HesterShaw1 · 08/08/2022 12:18

Because we're in the middle of a baby shortage to the point where they're considering taxing childless people

No "they" are not considering it. It has been suggested by a demographer, but there is no hint that it is being taken seriously. It would be political suicide for a starters.

Like for like OP - if you refuse to pay for childcare to look after your children, then I will refuse to pay my childless tax to fund things for those children. Only fair.

As if the childless aren't already paying. We're all contributing to children's education and tax credits (or equivalent) for parents. I'm happy to do so, but if OP wants to down that road...

vivainsomnia · 08/08/2022 12:26

This is my frustration, everyone complains but they continue to open their wallets and bend over
Because it's life? It's not the first recession we've been faced with and won't be the last and we knew it was coming. We had good for quite some years.

People who make changes are not the miners, rebellious, life is not fair to me, but the resilient, who accept change is not always good and that we have to make sacrifices and be patient to make it through it.

In your case, you're in a 4 bedroom detached house with 2 kids and you want us to feel sorry for you? How about you downgrade if you can't afford it whilst paying your essential bills? At least you have options, many won't yet will face the situation with much more dignity.

TheKeatingFive · 08/08/2022 12:26

Have you worked out that I don't give a fck yet what my employer thinks?*

Ok OP. Put your plan into action and let us know how it goes.

I'll get the popcorn

FourTeaFallOut · 08/08/2022 12:28

All this noise is to get someone else to do something. Some other sucker to light a fuse for civil disobedience. It's like the political equivalent of encouraging the vulnerable explosive kid to get into a fight only to slink off into the background when it's time to be held accountable.

But go ahead and demonstrate your principles, op. No point typing here, grab a megaphone - take to the streets, rally for change with some personal risk on the line. No more, everyone else is passive, be the change you want to see. But you go first. Then come back with the Big I Am routine.

PEDRO12 · 08/08/2022 12:28

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Once uncle recession rips its way through there won't be as many positions like that that is for sure.

Still, there will be a select FEW who will be in that position for sure even in the worst case scenario, so those can indeed taker the mickey out of their employers.

ilovesooty · 08/08/2022 12:29

I imagine your employer will tell you where to stick your childish attitude and quite rightly so.

girlmom21 · 08/08/2022 12:30

OP I find it interesting that you haven't confirmed whether your children's father will be working from home and providing childcare too.

Essenceandvibes · 08/08/2022 12:30

vivainsomnia · 08/08/2022 12:26

This is my frustration, everyone complains but they continue to open their wallets and bend over
Because it's life? It's not the first recession we've been faced with and won't be the last and we knew it was coming. We had good for quite some years.

People who make changes are not the miners, rebellious, life is not fair to me, but the resilient, who accept change is not always good and that we have to make sacrifices and be patient to make it through it.

In your case, you're in a 4 bedroom detached house with 2 kids and you want us to feel sorry for you? How about you downgrade if you can't afford it whilst paying your essential bills? At least you have options, many won't yet will face the situation with much more dignity.

How about.....no

I worked my ass off for a big detached house, I'm not selling to pay for energy bills when there are more sensible expendables

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Crankley · 08/08/2022 12:30

Great, so you'll be a crap employee and a crap parent and then presumably unemployed as a consequence. I'm sure you will feel very proud of yourself.

Essenceandvibes · 08/08/2022 12:30

girlmom21 · 08/08/2022 12:30

OP I find it interesting that you haven't confirmed whether your children's father will be working from home and providing childcare too.

He will ....thought that was obvious 🙃

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FinneusMum · 08/08/2022 12:32

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PEDRO12 · 08/08/2022 12:32

vivainsomnia · 08/08/2022 12:26

This is my frustration, everyone complains but they continue to open their wallets and bend over
Because it's life? It's not the first recession we've been faced with and won't be the last and we knew it was coming. We had good for quite some years.

People who make changes are not the miners, rebellious, life is not fair to me, but the resilient, who accept change is not always good and that we have to make sacrifices and be patient to make it through it.

In your case, you're in a 4 bedroom detached house with 2 kids and you want us to feel sorry for you? How about you downgrade if you can't afford it whilst paying your essential bills? At least you have options, many won't yet will face the situation with much more dignity.

Spot on with that last paragraph.

If you can't afford things, cut back on your lifestyle like 90% of the population are going to have to do. It sucks but its needed sadly to live within your means.

They have simply pushed too far in terms of their finances and now are crying because they have stuffed themselves into a really tight spot where the only option is to sign up to illegal things and take the p* out of their employers.

girlmom21 · 08/08/2022 12:33

He will ....thought that was obvious

How could that possibly have been obvious?

Are you able to work flexible hours? If so you can easily do this without impacting your employment negatively.

FinneusMum · 08/08/2022 12:33

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ABugsLyfe · 08/08/2022 12:34

thirstyformore · 08/08/2022 10:38

How can you work from home with a baby? That would be a nightmare.

Its possible. Ideal? No

girlmom21 · 08/08/2022 12:34

@FinneusMum then your HOD was doing a really shit job and shouldn't still be in role, assuming they were there before you.

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