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Classical music preferences

112 replies

millymog11 · 05/08/2022 09:24

My ex husband could only listen to Bach or some kind of baroque.

I used to be of his view but listening to Piano Concerto No.5 in Eb major Opus 73 (2/3)
Ludwig van Beethoven on the radio how could anyone not get the subtle tones the beauty? I don't like rachmaninov but I think I am being converted.
Am I being unreasonable?

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bigbeautifulmonster · 05/08/2022 16:51

I am curious as to what you really want to achieve with this thread OP.

Are you asking us "AIBU to be converted to non-Baroque music"?

Err... no.

It's beautiful to branch out and have different waves of favourites for different times of your life or even depending on what mood you're in. Enjoy!

bigbeautifulmonster · 05/08/2022 16:57

@DotBall I'm confused by your 'harmonies based on 4ths vs 3rds' comment too.
Do you mean 4ths stacked on top of each other are more ambiguous/unsettling than chords of 3rds stacked on top of each other? I've never heard this phrase before.

HesterShaw1 · 05/08/2022 19:20

entropynow · 05/08/2022 16:26

@HesterShaw1

No, is it still on iPlayer?

I can't find it unfortunately.

DotBall · 05/08/2022 19:42

millymog11 · 05/08/2022 10:58

"I really love pieces that have harmonies based around 4ths rather than 3rds."
Sorry to be dense but what does this mean? I'd really like to research it and see what it means. Thank you I know you are more of an expert than I am. Thanks in anticipation.

Millymog here is an explanation of 4ths harmony (quartals) from wikipedia.
It’s a feature of harmonic development in the 20th C (as opposed to the 4ths/5ths organum from medieval, times, although that’s pretty cool too 🙂)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartal_and_quintal_harmony

millymog11 · 06/08/2022 04:44

DotBall · Yesterday 19:42
Thank you so much I am really curious to learn and I am greatful for that link. Thank you.

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millymog11 · 06/08/2022 04:51

Roasteros · Yesterday 13:32 that is so helpful thank you for posting I've learned a lot.

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millymog11 · 06/08/2022 04:56

Enko · Yesterday 13:20 I listened to that incredibly beautiful. Can one like Bach and Chopin at the same time? It feels weird.

I've discarded Mozart since my children have become older. I genuinely dont know what is my style now.

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millymog11 · 06/08/2022 04:59

Heroicallyl0st · Yesterday 16:34 That is incredibly beautiful thank you for posting that.

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millymog11 · 06/08/2022 10:18

bigbeautifulmonster · Yesterday 16:51 I don't want to "achieve" anything. I was just reflecting on my own response to a style of classical music. If it offends you no need to look?

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forinborin · 06/08/2022 10:27

I am with your exH, baroque is da best and Bach is my first choice too. Ideally played live in a cameral, not symphonic, setting.

Outside of that, there's not much that captures me in the same way. Some things by Elgar, some Saint-Saens, random bits here and there.

millymog11 · 06/08/2022 10:33

forinborin · Today 10:27 that is interesting, thank you for posting I will google that.

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forinborin · 06/08/2022 10:35

millymog11 · 06/08/2022 10:33

forinborin · Today 10:27 that is interesting, thank you for posting I will google that.

Check cello concerto in e minor by Elgar, or Danse Macabre by Saint Saens as a taster to see if you like it in general.

millymog11 · 06/08/2022 10:36

What do we think of Vivaldi? I liked it when I was about 15 and since cannot stand it and now it is coming round the corner again. I didn't like it because it was very jumpy (jumpy is not a classical music term I realise, I am not a scholar)

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millymog11 · 06/08/2022 10:38

"My mum thinks "pop music" is anything written after 1750, which is the year Bach died."
haha brilliant. High five to your mum!

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Chickoletta · 06/08/2022 10:40

What about choral music? I’m a professional singer and would definitely recommend listening to Mozart and Verdi’s requiems. Maybe also Faure and Durufle.

The whole concept of a requiem, and how different composers set the different movements, is amazing, whether you are religious or not.

Chickoletta · 06/08/2022 10:43

What about buying this book? There’s a readlaong thread here on MN. Clemency Burton-Hill is a presenter on Radio3 and has chosen a piece of music for every day of the year, with details about it.

GuyMontag · 06/08/2022 10:44

@entropynow @HesterShaw1 the Verdi is still on the iPlayer as are the others from this year and last. (not all are televised though.)

BBC Proms, 2022: First Night of the Proms: www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m00197pl via @bbciplayer

Chickoletta · 06/08/2022 10:44

Sorry - this book:
Year of Wonder - Clemency Burton-Hill

GuyMontag · 06/08/2022 10:46

Fucks sake link didn't work

Proms, 2022: First Night of the Proms: www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m00197pl

LakieLady · 06/08/2022 10:46

Try some of Mozart's chamber music. It was a revelation to me, and I love it all.

I heard the Clarinet Quintet in A in the car one day, and was hooked, but the flute quartets are fantastic and the oboe quartet is sublime. I love it all.

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 06/08/2022 10:47

This thread has inspired me to sit in the living room this morning relaxing just listening to music, so thanks OP 😊.

I put on Locke's incidental music to The Tempest earlier and I'm now enjoying one of the Haydn mass settings.
While I have preferences I do have fairly broad taste in what I'll listen to (and sing).

Purpleguitar · 06/08/2022 10:52

Love baroque music. Give me an old fashioned II7b V I cadence and I'm happy! Nice and predictable.

Yes I know that sounds pretentious!! 😉

millymog11 · 06/08/2022 11:16

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · Today 10:47 love it! Enjoy. Any recommendations welcomed.

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HesterShaw1 · 06/08/2022 11:17

millymog11 · 06/08/2022 10:36

What do we think of Vivaldi? I liked it when I was about 15 and since cannot stand it and now it is coming round the corner again. I didn't like it because it was very jumpy (jumpy is not a classical music term I realise, I am not a scholar)

Sorry about the acidic tone of my first post OP. This is a nice thread Flowers

Glad to see the Verdi is still on iPlayer. That really is worth a watch. The bass was amazing 😍

with regard to Vivaldi, I know what you mean about not standing it. It was so utterly overplayed, I only have to hear the first few bars of "Spring" and want to punch something. Pretty sure this is not the effect he intended. But I love other Vivaldi stuff - it's the quintessential Italian baroque. Bach can feel just a little mathematical sometimes (for me)

GuyMontag · 06/08/2022 11:18

I've got radio 3 on. They're playing Bach - the G minor harsichord concerto that got used in that old 90s film Truly Madly Deeply. (If you know the film, it's not the cello music.)