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Classical music preferences

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millymog11 · 05/08/2022 09:24

My ex husband could only listen to Bach or some kind of baroque.

I used to be of his view but listening to Piano Concerto No.5 in Eb major Opus 73 (2/3)
Ludwig van Beethoven on the radio how could anyone not get the subtle tones the beauty? I don't like rachmaninov but I think I am being converted.
Am I being unreasonable?

OP posts:
StrychnineInTheSandwiches · 05/08/2022 11:11

HesterShaw1 · 05/08/2022 11:00

Ooomph is a great way of describing Handel! A bit of va va boom

that boy knew how to write a lively tune! Grin

FatOaf · 05/08/2022 13:15

that boy knew how to write a lively tune!

Every year I hold back from listening to The Messiah until the first of December. The first blast of "Unto Us a Child is Born" (very loud) is a highlight of the year.

Enko · 05/08/2022 13:20

I am very fond of Chopin especially

Its just so pretty and yet so dramatic too

Also Mozart Concerto No. 21 in C Major,

I get others dont like them but I think they are beautiful so IMO like what you like and enjoy it.

CaptainThe95thRifles · 05/08/2022 13:26

For balance, I think "Beethoven's fifth piano concerto" is more pretentious than the full description that was obviously copied and pasted from an app - someone fully conversant with classical music wouldn't have had to look it up.

I like a bit of Shostakovich, myself. Bach always makes me think of Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency.

Roasteros · 05/08/2022 13:32

millymog11 · 05/08/2022 10:58

"I really love pieces that have harmonies based around 4ths rather than 3rds."
Sorry to be dense but what does this mean? I'd really like to research it and see what it means. Thank you I know you are more of an expert than I am. Thanks in anticipation.

The 4ths which the PP refers to, describes the intervals or gaps between notes. Originally music largely had a tune only, no harmonies, similar to folk music. When harmonies were created in Western music, they were primarily written in 5ths or 4ths, which can sound strange to our ears now. Later on, during the Renaissance, harmonies became diatonic - harmonies were written in 3rds and 6ths (but some other intervals were kept). Pop music today is largely diatonic, if there are harmonies. At the end of the 19th / beginning of 20th century, composers began to break down these intervals again ( among other things, too long to explain here)
to create a new, discordant sound, and include other intervals which sounded edgier.

I hope this makes sense OP. The actual development of Western Music is protracted and complex, but fascinating. I would suggest listening to what you like and perhaps using the "suggested for you" pieces to explore more.

I love choral music, particularly by Eric Whitacre and Ola Gjeilo, but my real passion are madrigals!

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 05/08/2022 13:34

FatOaf · 05/08/2022 13:15

that boy knew how to write a lively tune!

Every year I hold back from listening to The Messiah until the first of December. The first blast of "Unto Us a Child is Born" (very loud) is a highlight of the year.

Only commenting on this because you criticised a previous poster abour their description of a piece of music.
Handel's oratorio is called Messiah not The Messiah.

5foot5 · 05/08/2022 13:35

DH told me that at a University interview the interviewer noticed that he had said on his application that he liked music and announced that he thought music had gone steadily downhill since Bach died. As a gauche 17 year old who was actually fond of Prog Rock this left poor DH pretty stumped for something to say.

BlueKaftan · 05/08/2022 13:40

StrychnineInTheSandwiches · 05/08/2022 11:11

that boy knew how to write a lively tune! Grin

Did Handel write the Arrival of the Queen of Sheba? I can’t help but skip about whenever I hear that glorious music.

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 05/08/2022 13:46

Did Handel write the Arrival of the Queen of Sheba? I can’t help but skip about whenever I hear that glorious music.
Yes he did. It's from another of his oratorios, Solomon.

entropynow · 05/08/2022 13:48

@Malbecfan

Ooh, will check those out. Love a bit of Bach. And a bit of many other composers 🤓

entropynow · 05/08/2022 13:57

@HesterShaw1

For Oomph also see: Verdi😄
I put on the Dies Irae from his Requiem after teen DS1 made some provocative remark about classical music being boring.
Afterwards: "well, all right. Not that one"😁

FictionalCharacter · 05/08/2022 14:00

For those talking about Handel: here’s a lovely piece of dance that IMO brings the oomph, energy and brightness to life perfectly!

FatOaf · 05/08/2022 14:01

Handel's oratorio is called Messiah not The Messiah.

A hit, a very palpable hit.

I am suitably humbled (and in a less foul mood than I was this morning: apologies).

entropynow · 05/08/2022 14:05

And as to Verdi:

entropynow · 05/08/2022 14:06

Huge fun to sing, too. Hard work but exhilarating

sophiasnail · 05/08/2022 14:15

My mum thinks "pop music" is anything written after 1750, which is the year Bach died.

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 05/08/2022 14:22

For anyone thinking the Dies Irae from the Verdi Requiem is brilliant (but bonkers), you should try the Berlioz Requiem.
I actually quite fancy that at my funeral, but think my surviving relatives might struggle to pull together the required choir and orchestra at short notice 🤣

entropynow · 05/08/2022 14:25

@Grumpyoldpersonwithcats

😂

balalake · 05/08/2022 14:33

Musical taste is not a fixed thing, it evolves over time I think. There may be some pieces you always like, but it is a never ending aspect of life that you can be introduced to music never heard before.

Giggorata · 05/08/2022 14:34

Bach will always be my favourite but I listen to the Early Music Show on Radio 3, Sundays and it nearly always has something fabulous.
If you like early music.
It introduced me to the music of Jan Dismas Zelenka, for one.

DramaAlpaca · 05/08/2022 14:42

warmeduppizza · 05/08/2022 09:51

Anything from Beethoven onwards is a bit too modern for me, but people look at me like I have three heads when I say that.

I'm with you @warmeduppizza

Malbecfan · 05/08/2022 16:06

Well if @millymog11 doesn't mind a slight derail, I got into an interesting debate with some of our peri music staff a few years ago. We had to nominate our favourite or what we considered to be the best symphonies by different composers up to 9. So composer A's 1st symphony, composer B's 2nd and so on up to composer I's 9th. It provoked some heated discussions and some angst as to what to leave out. If I can find mine, I'll post them later...

HesterShaw1 · 05/08/2022 16:22

entropynow · 05/08/2022 13:57

@HesterShaw1

For Oomph also see: Verdi😄
I put on the Dies Irae from his Requiem after teen DS1 made some provocative remark about classical music being boring.
Afterwards: "well, all right. Not that one"😁

Bloody love the Verdi requiem. Did you see the prom?

entropynow · 05/08/2022 16:26

@HesterShaw1

No, is it still on iPlayer?

Heroicallyl0st · 05/08/2022 16:34

I’ve been enjoying choral music more lately…

and there’s nothing that beats Mozart’s Flute and Flute & Harp concertos on a summer’s day eg

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