To think you can't really isolate with covid anymore?

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I am day 4 of having covid for the second time. I don't feel too bad but also can tell that I'm ill. However, my first stint with covid I had people constantly asking if they could help, if I needed anything. This time around no one has offered and I don't really feel like I can ask due to the new rules.

I stayed in Sunday to today but today I really needed to get shopping in and walk my dogs. I walked my dogs for 30 minutes away from everyone and wore a mask in the shop. But I couldn't help feel that I was being so selfish and breaking the rules when I was going around the shop. But what are we meant to do when we have covid but feel well enough to go out?

Even my work said if I feel up to it I've to go in. I just find it really crazy.

So AIBU to think that for most people they are unable to isolate now either due to less support for getting food/medicine etc or due to not being able to take the time off work?

Also if I'm well enough to walk my dogs and go to the shops then am I well enough to go to work even though I still don't feel great? I'm feeling guilty being off tomorrow when I was out today.

Self isolation has always been a luxury that many can't afford. My work are still strongly suggesting that we self isolate, but we won't be paid if we do. I can't afford to lose a week's wages and neither can my colleagues.

Most workplaces are now asking staff to come in with covid so imo there’s no point isolating for morality when we’re all coming into contact with it several times a day anyway.

This is true. There were people who didn't have the option to isolate even when it was a legal requirement.

Most people won’t even know they have it anymore because they don’t test, who wants to buy a test especially with the way things are financially right now? So crack on I say, there’ll be thousands out there who have it right now and have no idea. I was asymptomatic both times I had it.

@AussieMozzieMagnet Can you say more about respirator masks please__? Aren't they the ones with the valve in? I would have thought the valve would reduce the protective effect for others when you wear one.

You are not wrong OP. But a sizeable portion of the population enjoy making their lives all about Covid. They generally enjoy drama. They are never more comfortable than when joining in the never ending hysteria.

That's going so well for China isn't it 🙄

Most people have concluded that the costs of trying to dodge Covid after 2+ years are not worthwhile for them.

If people want to isolate themselves for their own wellbeing, that's their perogative, but the majority have sacrificed too much for too long anyway.

Some of the posts on here are effectively saying, 'fuck the vulnerable'. Others are saying (as do the guidelines) that they would try to avoid the vulnerable, which is laughable, as how would you know? Besides the very elderly, there are not many visual cues. The CEV don't carry placards announcing their health status.

Perhaps the solution is to take a cue from the Middle Ages, when the plague-ridden had to ring a bell when in public, so everyone else knew to steer clear...

What do you mean - the attitudes of people whose employers tell them they have to go into work with Covid unless they are actually sick? Employers like schools?
Or the attitudes of people who don’t get paid if they don’t go into work? And can’t afford not to be paid

When I had it a month ago I avoided indoors and busy places for the first 4 days or so. I was well enough to drive out for quiet 2-3 mile walks where there was no one to infect even if I was inclined to snog random strangers.

I went out walking at night when it was quiet at Christmas because spending a week trapped in the house was beyond intolerable and there's only so many walking workout videos you can do in a limited floor space.

I'm happy with my civic duty in avoiding swervable high risk situations and that's my limit. Too much was stolen from me for too long.

DH's work policy of WFH with a family contact actively discourages me from testing because that then means not only am I under the weather, but I have to be stuck in his temporary workplace with no peace to relax and get over it. Own goal. (And despite sharing a bed, we've not transferred it to the other the cumulative 3 times we've had it)

We're not allowed into work until we've had two neg tests after a minimum of 5 days off.

Well you could have done an online shop.

I agree 100%

It isn't hysteria when you have blood cancer and cev.

I got Covid for the first time a couple of weeks ago. I told my work and was told not to come in until i had a negative test result. I felt better after 2 business days but continued to test positive for over 10 days. I ended up not being paid for this.
I cannot afford to not be paid for so long and so next time, regretfully i either won't test or will come in and mask up etc.
I hate having to make that choice but i do need money to get by.

No one is saying fuck the vulnerable but this isn’t still 2020. The numbers of people CEV from Covid have hugely reduced since then due to vaccination. Yes some people are sadly still vulnerable but nowhere near the numbers as before and although it’s awful for them there comes a point where it’s not reasonable to keep expecting others to live with restrictions just to protect a tiny
minority.

my son went to school with a boy with CF who sadly died just before Covid. A common cold could hospitalise him for months. What restrictions were put in place on other people going out to protect him?

You won’t be alone in this by any stretch of the imagination and shouldn’t feel at all guilty. Not everyone can afford to isolate and that’s just being realistic.

My work are treating it as normal sickness so it will go on your record. So I would act as I normally would - if I feel too ill I’ll phone in sick but I wouldn’t waste a sick day if I felt ok. And when we run out of the tests we’ve got I’m not prepared to pay for any.

Others are saying (as do the guidelines) that they would try to avoid the vulnerable, which is laughable, as how would you know? Besides the very elderly, there are not many visual cues. The CEV don't carry placards announcing their health status.

in everyday life I give anyone wearing a mask extra space and will put a mask on if, say, I'm on a bus and someone with a mask gets on.

if I was ill I would avoid crowded public spaces.

Scaremongering. Pure and simple.

Take your own advice and stop spreading disinformation.

Same.
I'm lucky, I can work from home. If I'm too ill I get paid sick
If I wasn't paid, I'd go in if I felt well enough.
I would not risk the roof over my head. It's as simple as that.

Things really need to get back to normal.
If you're scared, keep up with your jabs, shop at quiet times, take precautions.
We all did it and it still spread like wildfire.