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To think you can't really isolate with covid anymore?

96 replies

berazzled · 04/08/2022 13:29

I am day 4 of having covid for the second time. I don't feel too bad but also can tell that I'm ill. However, my first stint with covid I had people constantly asking if they could help, if I needed anything. This time around no one has offered and I don't really feel like I can ask due to the new rules.

I stayed in Sunday to today but today I really needed to get shopping in and walk my dogs. I walked my dogs for 30 minutes away from everyone and wore a mask in the shop. But I couldn't help feel that I was being so selfish and breaking the rules when I was going around the shop. But what are we meant to do when we have covid but feel well enough to go out?

Even my work said if I feel up to it I've to go in. I just find it really crazy.

So AIBU to think that for most people they are unable to isolate now either due to less support for getting food/medicine etc or due to not being able to take the time off work?

Also if I'm well enough to walk my dogs and go to the shops then am I well enough to go to work even though I still don't feel great? I'm feeling guilty being off tomorrow when I was out today.

OP posts:
Staynow · 04/08/2022 15:58

We isolated for 5 days completely and then barely went out for the next 5. We just got an online shop and got our daughter to walk the dog. I felt awful for a week, my throat was killing and I felt really fluey - I wouldn't want to risk being responsible for making others feel like that.

ApplesandBunions · 04/08/2022 15:58

Maximo2 · 04/08/2022 15:44

It absolutely does not say that. It says:

Try to stay at home and avoid contact with others if you have tested positive for coronavirus (COVID-19) or have symptoms of COVID-19.

How are you getting ‘it says you don’t have to isolate from that’?!

I used to wonder why there were legal restrictions because most people do actually have common sense. Now I get it.

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Probably because 'it says you don't have to isolate' is an accurate interpretation. If you did have to stay at home when covid positive, the guidance would state that you must do so and also there would be legislation stating as much. The use of 'try to' means it's saying you don't have to.

Cantanka · 04/08/2022 15:58

Maximo2 · 04/08/2022 15:55

You have to be spectacularly thick to to extrapolate that an NHS recommendation to stay at home actually means don’t bother.

I am not “spectacularly thick”. The poster you responded to said it wasn’t a rule and you “don’t have to isolate”. This is true. It is recommended that you do, but it isn’t a rule and you don’t have to. That will be where the poster got that “it says you don’t have to isolate” from, which is what I was responding to in your post.

I think people should try to stay at home with covid, but that’s not the same thing as them having to do so because that’s no longer required, only recommended.

ApplesandBunions · 04/08/2022 16:00

Cantanka · 04/08/2022 15:50

Well in fairness, “try to stay at home” isn’t the same as “you have to stay at home”. It’s a recommendation, not an order.

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Yes, the fact that there are people who've managed not to understand that calling others thick is actually pretty funny...

Maximo2 · 04/08/2022 16:10

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SheWoreYellow · 04/08/2022 16:12

We got supermarket delivery. I don’t think walking the dog is a risk to anyone so we just stayed well clear of other people when we were out. So we did isolate, pretty much anyway.

Ginger1982 · 04/08/2022 16:14

It's just about being sensible. If you don't HAVE to go anywhere for 5 days then don't.

ozoruk · 04/08/2022 16:14

I will never test again unless forced to for travel so wont know if i have it or not. If i am too ill to go out i will stay at home if not i will go about my daily business.

Drivebye · 04/08/2022 16:20

I caught covid on holiday, I only knew because we took some tests and I tested. I was well enough to carry on so I did. There is no requirement to isolate however I did use a mask when out in shops etc. Given that you have to pay to test I expect the majority are not even testing. If all you get is a runny nose and a little cough then many will not even realise they have it.

People should just do what they feel most comfortable with given their circumstances.

figmaofmyimagination · 04/08/2022 16:22

Why couldn’t you get a food shop delivered?

HunterHearstHelmsley · 04/08/2022 16:26

I work in health care so we still isolate or work from home if we test positive. My area is well served by uber eats, deliveroo etc. So there's options there.

I tested positive a few weeks ago. I had a night out booked at a restaurant, where I had to pay a deposit to book and would be charged if I cancelled less than 48 hours before. I called the restaurant to explain. They just said it wasn't their problem. I felt OK in myself so (after checking with the other people going) I went.

InquiringMinds · 04/08/2022 16:41

berazzled · 04/08/2022 13:29

I am day 4 of having covid for the second time. I don't feel too bad but also can tell that I'm ill. However, my first stint with covid I had people constantly asking if they could help, if I needed anything. This time around no one has offered and I don't really feel like I can ask due to the new rules.

I stayed in Sunday to today but today I really needed to get shopping in and walk my dogs. I walked my dogs for 30 minutes away from everyone and wore a mask in the shop. But I couldn't help feel that I was being so selfish and breaking the rules when I was going around the shop. But what are we meant to do when we have covid but feel well enough to go out?

Even my work said if I feel up to it I've to go in. I just find it really crazy.

So AIBU to think that for most people they are unable to isolate now either due to less support for getting food/medicine etc or due to not being able to take the time off work?

Also if I'm well enough to walk my dogs and go to the shops then am I well enough to go to work even though I still don't feel great? I'm feeling guilty being off tomorrow when I was out today.

@berazzled We had a family member in our home (all windows open) for just four hours. We didn’t have physical contact with him and the following day myself and my other half felt unwell. Worse the following day and we tested positive for Covid. We have both been sick for the past four weeks now. I am self employed and cannot work as Covid has beaten my ss. My other half has secondary health issues due to Covid now too. All because our family member didn’t tell us he had Covid. I know many people think it’s just like a bad cold or the flu, but for some it’s not, it’s life threatening and it bggers up lives. I have been told by my GP telephonically that I will not recover from this soon. I am looking at months off work as it’s had such a bad effect on my lungs. Anyone who has tested positive for Covid should think about how contagious it is and do online food orders, not go to the shops. I understand your need to go for a walk though, I wish we could too, but for us that’s impossible. I saw a comment about people not testing as tests are no longer free, well I hope that whoever can afford them buys them and keeps a stash. Covid sucks and being self employed the last thing I need is battling this. I lost my Mum last year due to Covid negligence courtesy of a stranger she came into contact with despite her self isolating prior to this encounter and catching Covid as a result. We don’t all have the same immune systems and protecting others should be a priority too. (Not having a go at you but at those who say it’s okay to carry on as normal despite having Covid).

alpenguin · 04/08/2022 16:51

I wish all these people who dgaf about others catching covid from them in public /at work would campaign for the clinically extremely vulnerable to have access Evusheld so at least we had half a chance of having some kind of life.

DoubleShotEspresso · 05/08/2022 01:27

BiscoffSundae · 04/08/2022 15:38

I wouldn’t isolate so 🤷‍♀️

Why on earth wouldn't you?

BiscoffSundae · 05/08/2022 01:29

DoubleShotEspresso · 05/08/2022 01:27

Why on earth wouldn't you?

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I wouldn’t test and never have so wouldn’t know either way and you don’t have to anymore so why would I! It’s over now no one needs to isolate anymore only on MN no one cares irl.

DoubleShotEspresso · 05/08/2022 01:33

@BiscoffSundae

  • DoubleShotEspresso Why on earth wouldn't you?

I wouldn’t test and never have so wouldn’t know either way and you don’t have to anymore so why would I! It’s over now no one needs to isolate anymore only on MN no one cares irl.

So the clinically vulnerable are are disposable to you then?

What a disgraceful attitude to not ever consider testing.
"Not having to" shouldn't mean you don't apply some adult decency and common sense.
And no. Sadly it's not over.

BiscoffSundae · 05/08/2022 01:35

No one in real life cares. It’s old news

BiscoffSundae · 05/08/2022 01:36

As if people are still testing and isolating when we literally been told we don’t have to anymore like I said only on MN 🙄

Woolandwonder · 05/08/2022 01:39

I definitely think it's a good idea to isolate and if you can the right thing to do although I realise not everyone can. My parents are in their 70s and have covid for the first time, haven't been able to get out of bed for a week so far and feel truly awful (and my mum is a very tough no nonsense ex nurse.. the kind who'd tell me not to make a fuss and just shake it out when I'd broken a limb 🤣)

XenoBitch · 05/08/2022 01:40

I felt the same, OP.
3 days after my positive test, I had a niggling cough as a symptom. Nothing else. I went to the shops and did stuff. I still had to get food for me and my dog, along with my medication. Not everyone has neighbours etc that can help. I certainly do not.

BiscoffSundae · 05/08/2022 01:41

You have to pay for the tests now who is going to pay for them? MN is another planet sometimes everyone is just getting on with their life now.

DoubleShotEspresso · 05/08/2022 01:42

BiscoffSundae · 05/08/2022 01:35

No one in real life cares. It’s old news

How charming

DoubleShotEspresso · 05/08/2022 01:43

BiscoffSundae · 05/08/2022 01:36

As if people are still testing and isolating when we literally been told we don’t have to anymore like I said only on MN 🙄

Nobody has told you we don't have to.
As unthread IT IS RECOMMENDED!
What part if this are you not getting?

DoubleShotEspresso · 05/08/2022 01:45

BiscoffSundae · 05/08/2022 01:41

You have to pay for the tests now who is going to pay for them? MN is another planet sometimes everyone is just getting on with their life now.

Yes except those who are CEV because people like you cannot be bothered to consider anybody but themselves.
Disgusting attitude truly

AussieMozzieMagnet · 05/08/2022 02:15

Some of the responses here are just bonkers.

Most of you fail to recognise the dangers of catching covid & seem to think of it as merely a cold. It is not!

You are all setting yourselves up for miserable health outcomes well into the future by this nonchalant attitude. Your children will also pay dearly.

Do all you can to avoid catching it. If you do, minimise the number of reinfections. You owe your brain at least (though sadly it affects all organs).

Don't allow your children to catch it. They deserve the best start to life you can give them. Catching covid risks this exponentially.

There is no such thing as herd immunity. It was a myth created to minimise "panic". Wear the best mask you can afford. Start looking at respirator masks.

Don't let social pressure to live a "normal life" gaslight you into making the wrong choices. When things go awry (and trust me, allowing rampant reinfections will ensure it does), no one will care about you.

Just don't catch covid.

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