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Pissed off

34 replies

notimpressed1 · 02/08/2022 21:48

Extremely pissed off! Stepdaughter starts new job.. not mI5 as far as I'm aware ... calls her dad to ask MY DOB, place of birth , addresses past and present, employment, past surnames used ..also his info . Apparently for her security chks. Pissed off I wasn't asked , pissed off as to why they want this just pissed off!! I don't live with her, I have never lived with her I have seen her 5x in two yrs so why should they require my info! I asked dh if he gave my bank details and NI he said I'd not do that I said why not U have all my other stuff!!

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ThreeB · 02/08/2022 21:52

Many jobs require security checks, not just MI5. They will require yours as you are in a relationship with her father. You are classed as a close family contact, regardless of how often you have seen her.

Findahouse21 · 02/08/2022 21:54

Any police jobs will want these details. I go to meetings with the police and I had to provide them them get clearance to be in them, so anything where that is a requirement will also need security clearance.

systemerroroccurred · 02/08/2022 21:56

I had a job a few years ago that wasn't MI5/police etc and had to provide all those details for my parents (and DP)

Hawkins001 · 02/08/2022 21:56

notimpressed1 · 02/08/2022 21:48

Extremely pissed off! Stepdaughter starts new job.. not mI5 as far as I'm aware ... calls her dad to ask MY DOB, place of birth , addresses past and present, employment, past surnames used ..also his info . Apparently for her security chks. Pissed off I wasn't asked , pissed off as to why they want this just pissed off!! I don't live with her, I have never lived with her I have seen her 5x in two yrs so why should they require my info! I asked dh if he gave my bank details and NI he said I'd not do that I said why not U have all my other stuff!!

I'm guessing it is mi5/6, usually it's a detailed background that covers a number of years, and close relations etc.

Violettaa · 02/08/2022 21:56

I can see you would be intrigued and want to make sure they are legit, but why pissed off?

Hawkins001 · 02/08/2022 21:57

Or it could be, mod, or e.g. Dtsl, etc.

notimpressed1 · 02/08/2022 21:57

@Violettaa at the fact I wasn't even asked. My details provided without my consent

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luxxlisbon · 02/08/2022 21:58

Surely you could just take 2 minutes to understand her job and the need for this info before getting so irate?

Hawkins001 · 02/08/2022 21:58

Besides would you have offered the information if asked or would you have refused op, ?

notimpressed1 · 02/08/2022 21:59

@Hawkins001 I would have provided it

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SummerInSun · 02/08/2022 22:00

I can understand you might be annoyed she asked her dad and not you directly, although presumably she made one call to check the info for or dad and didn't see the need to make a separate call to you.

But totally uncalled for to be annoyed that she has to provide it - lots of public sector jobs require basic extended family security clearance checks like that. What did you want her to do, refuse to give the info and this not get a job she presumably wants?

If it gives you any comfort, the info she provides will all be dealt with in a GDPR compliant way, shouldn't be any identity theft or similar risk to you.

notimpressed1 · 02/08/2022 22:00

@luxxlisbon I wasn't given two minutes I didn't know she had a new job

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MangyInseam · 02/08/2022 22:02

YABU.

Throwawaytoday · 02/08/2022 22:02

This is a standard counter terrorist check (CTC) and/or Security Cleared (SC) vetting.

Many jobs need it, especially if client facing and your client is a government agency (eg a Gov Department, or the police, etc.).

She should have asked you.

Your DH should have asked you.

The process is normal. It's the lack of information which is rude.

ThreeB · 02/08/2022 22:03

notimpressed1 · 02/08/2022 22:00

@luxxlisbon I wasn't given two minutes I didn't know she had a new job

But you've said yourself that you hardly see/talk to her. Why would she tell you? She told her Dad and clearly assumed (not unreasonably) that he would tell you

Hawkins001 · 02/08/2022 22:04

notimpressed1 · 02/08/2022 22:00

@luxxlisbon I wasn't given two minutes I didn't know she had a new job

Usually they say only discuss the position with one close family member, ect, me u talk to the kettle. Loose, lips sinks battle.ships, and all that jazz.

notimpressed1 · 02/08/2022 22:05

@ThreeB where did I say I don't talk to her?

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Savingpeoplehuntingthings · 02/08/2022 22:07

Many jobs need these checks, not just mi5. DH had to give details his best friends. His employer did background checks on them all without them knowing, plus me, my ex-husband and dh's dead parents! They rang a couple of people up too to check dh had told the truth about his relationship with them.

Hawkins001 · 02/08/2022 22:07

notimpressed1 · 02/08/2022 22:05

@ThreeB where did I say I don't talk to her?

"I don't live with her, I have never lived with her I have seen her 5x in two yrs so why should they require my info"

That comment gives the perspectives

alnawire · 02/08/2022 22:08

It sounds like you are being pissed off with your husband for the sake of being pissed off with your husband.

SuperheroBirds · 02/08/2022 22:08

I work in a pretty normal public sector job, and needed checks for my parents and their partners. As someone else had suggested, I phoned my Dad to double check his details, so asked for his partner’s at the same time. It would never have occur to me that this would offend her. Trust me, it is pretty annoying for her to have to fill it all in!

Throwawaytoday · 02/08/2022 22:08

For context, what they're looking for is:


  • Bankruptcy or other registered financial difficulty

  • Criminal record

  • Alignment to known extremist groups

  • Association with any outlawed political groups


All four make someone more susceptible to bribery, the bottom two mean that they could have bad intent.

sunsetsandsandybeaches · 02/08/2022 22:15

It's your DH you should be annoyed with, not her.

She rang her dad to get the information - it's not her fault he didn't check with you first. I mean, it wouldn't occur to me to ring my stepmum if I could get all the information I needed from my dad.

bigbluebus · 02/08/2022 22:17

I remember when my DB1 got his current job, he rang our DM to ask for all the personal details of family members - including his BIL (my DH) and SIL (DB1's wife). We were only told after the event.
He has to renew the check every 7 years.
As you would have given the information anyway if asked, I'm not really sure why you're annoyed.

Hawkins001 · 02/08/2022 22:19

sunsetsandsandybeaches · 02/08/2022 22:15

It's your DH you should be annoyed with, not her.

She rang her dad to get the information - it's not her fault he didn't check with you first. I mean, it wouldn't occur to me to ring my stepmum if I could get all the information I needed from my dad.

That's the pickle,.if you know source a, can get information about source c, but your not in open dialogue with source c, or it's confidential for containment measures etc, then realistically source a would be the priority source.

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