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To be fascinated by the "carnivore" diet

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CakeCrumbs44 · 01/08/2022 13:48

I've just discovered today that there is a diet called the carnivore diet which is basically anti-vegan. They ONLY eat meat, some of them eat animal products such as dairy, tallow, eggs.

Snack suggestions include "candy" made from frozen browned butter, eating solid tallow straight from the fridge, drinking bone broth and most recently chicken "pizza" where the base is made from blended chicken, cheese and eggs, the topping is cheese sauce without flour and then topped with cheese and dipped in more cheese sauce.

Anyone seen this, is it actually real or are these people just doing it for Instagram? What are the supposed health benefits?

instagram.com/itscourtneyluna?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

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mynameiscalypso · 01/08/2022 14:47

I am also fascinated! I am a meat eater but I can't imagine how gross I'd feel if that was the only thing I ate. The cost and environmental impact must be pretty unsustainable too.

GettinPiggyWithIt · 01/08/2022 14:47

That sounds completely revolting 🤮🤮🤮

Thatswhyimacat · 01/08/2022 14:48

Well seeing as human beings are not carnivorous, it is obviously not going to be optimal for health, not to mention how awful it is for the environment, and unless you're very rich I don't see how anyone could be buying those amounts of meat unless it was low quality and horrendous welfare standards.

yonce · 01/08/2022 14:48

CakeCrumbs44 · 01/08/2022 14:35

I was 100% imagining a giant chicken nugget / schnitzel style pizza, that video looks rather foul 😂

CakeCrumbs44 · 01/08/2022 14:51

yonce · 01/08/2022 14:48

I was 100% imagining a giant chicken nugget / schnitzel style pizza, that video looks rather foul 😂

Can't add tomato sauce or breadcrumbs as they're not meat based...

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Bubblebubblebah · 01/08/2022 14:55

I actually quite like that pizza. But! Can they use herbs? Would totally make herby choken thingy

Shehasadiamondinthesky · 01/08/2022 14:58

My friend did this diet and her breath stank for months. I told her so too.

Same1977 · 01/08/2022 15:02

Most of the people trying to reduce meat intake to improve their health and help enviroment whilst others thinking of eating animal products only...

shinynewapple22 · 01/08/2022 15:04

Can't think of anything more disgusting!

petridishmystery · 01/08/2022 15:14

CakeCrumbs44 · 01/08/2022 13:48

I've just discovered today that there is a diet called the carnivore diet which is basically anti-vegan. They ONLY eat meat, some of them eat animal products such as dairy, tallow, eggs.

Snack suggestions include "candy" made from frozen browned butter, eating solid tallow straight from the fridge, drinking bone broth and most recently chicken "pizza" where the base is made from blended chicken, cheese and eggs, the topping is cheese sauce without flour and then topped with cheese and dipped in more cheese sauce.

Anyone seen this, is it actually real or are these people just doing it for Instagram? What are the supposed health benefits?

instagram.com/itscourtneyluna?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

I follow her. I have no desire to emulate her but like you, I am absolutely fascinated. She won’t even eat spices because they’re plants!

cockandball · 01/08/2022 15:14

ewwwwwww

CounsellorTroi · 01/08/2022 15:26

If you eat that much meat your poo and farts will smell disgusting, much more so than on a normal diet.

HarrietSchulenberg · 01/08/2022 15:31

Isn't this a rehash of the Atkins diet of 20 years ago? The one that loads of celebrities allegedly followed until they worked out it made their breath stink? Jennifer Aniston was one, I'm sure.
Sounds foul anyway.

HyperionWarbonnet · 01/08/2022 15:35

The carnivore diet works for people who get inflammation from the anti-nutrients in plants. Lectins, saponins, catechins, gluten etc. can make some people ill. It leads to inflammation and leaky gut which can lead to autoimmune diseases. There is a massive amount of evidence people can heal themselves from autoimmune diseases by eliminating plant foods from their diet.

In addition, oxalates can be really harmful to some people unable to excrete them. They get a build up in their body that renders them unable to live a normal life at the extreme end. Look at Sally K Norton's Youtube channel for enlightenment.

Anyone with body pain, inflammation in their joints and/or brain fog would be well advised to reduce foods with oxalates and high antinutrients. Going carnivore for a lot of desperately sick people has given them their life back. Some gradually add back in stuff they can handle, some don't but it works.

JustDanceAddict · 01/08/2022 15:37

ShhDoNotTell · 01/08/2022 14:40

How do you think other animals manage? You don’t need fibre to shit.

They eat grass!

PurplePalmTree · 01/08/2022 15:41

It's nothing new, hunter gatherers from which we evolved ate mostly animals but also fruit and nuts. It's only in last few thousands years that humans have started farming the land with crops. So it is possible to survive on a diet of mostly meat, and quite successfully otherwise humans would have gone extinct. It is unhealthy in terms of the fat content, but for our ancestors it was an advantage to eat lots of energy dense fat. They weren't affected by heart disease because they only had a life span of say 30years and were much more likely to be eaten by a predator or killed fighting than heart disease or cancer from the meat! Whether it is a good diet for humans now is another question, but certainly no worse than all the processed refined carbohydrates in the modern diet.

Same1977 · 01/08/2022 15:41

HyperionWarbonnet · 01/08/2022 15:35

The carnivore diet works for people who get inflammation from the anti-nutrients in plants. Lectins, saponins, catechins, gluten etc. can make some people ill. It leads to inflammation and leaky gut which can lead to autoimmune diseases. There is a massive amount of evidence people can heal themselves from autoimmune diseases by eliminating plant foods from their diet.

In addition, oxalates can be really harmful to some people unable to excrete them. They get a build up in their body that renders them unable to live a normal life at the extreme end. Look at Sally K Norton's Youtube channel for enlightenment.

Anyone with body pain, inflammation in their joints and/or brain fog would be well advised to reduce foods with oxalates and high antinutrients. Going carnivore for a lot of desperately sick people has given them their life back. Some gradually add back in stuff they can handle, some don't but it works.

There are plenty of studies showing that mainly plant based diet helps with inflammation.Maybe in some particular cases it might not be the case but there is a reason why almost every study coming out or the largest study on human diet ever made says eat plants and some meat.

HyperionWarbonnet · 01/08/2022 15:52

I'm not here to argue. The fewer people that go on it the better for the planet and more meat for people that need it! : )

malificent7 · 01/08/2022 15:55

Boak.

sueelleker · 01/08/2022 15:58

StrangeCondition · 01/08/2022 14:30

I've used a very flattened grilled chicken breast as a pizza base, used the same way as dough one...it was very nice

I've made cheese sauce by just melting grated cheese into cream. Lovely!

apintortwo · 01/08/2022 16:28

It's good that this has cropped up as a sort of backlash to veganism.

An all meat diet is no less healthy than an all plat diet. Restricting (or reducing) food groups in the absence of a health condition is dangerous.

apintortwo · 01/08/2022 16:30

The fewer people that go on it the better for the planet and more meat for people that need it

What they usually argue is that everyone should eat less meat or avoid meat altogether.

Same1977 · 02/08/2022 07:15

apintortwo · 01/08/2022 16:28

It's good that this has cropped up as a sort of backlash to veganism.

An all meat diet is no less healthy than an all plat diet. Restricting (or reducing) food groups in the absence of a health condition is dangerous.

There is a lot of new research done that actually says we should be eating mainly plant based with very little white meat and some fish.No red meat at all...
So although both are not ideal veganism is closer to good diet than eating animal products alone.Simple Google check will introduce you to countless studies that support this

Funkyblues101 · 02/08/2022 07:20

Some indigenous communities are wholly carnivore in winter but to get the full range of nutrients humans need then the entire animal has to be consumed including all the offal. Not many westerners prepared to do that. Snout to tail, no thanks. Paleo or keto far more realistic for reducing inflammation and feeding our bodies.

Blondebakingmumma · 02/08/2022 07:26

I’ve been carnivore for nearly 2 years. I’m not totally strict because I drink coffee and occasionally a wine.