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Have you ever felt evil or that something was deeply wrong?

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crochetmonkey74 · 01/08/2022 09:25

Inspired by an experience I had recently that has really rattled me. It's very outing as I've talked to everyone in my real life about it, it bothered me so much so I'll keep it brief.
I met some people I hadn't met before to buy an item from FB marketplace. Its a fairly rare item, and an expensive one so I went off to see if it was the right thing. The house was beautiful, it was a very large manor house that has been turned into huge expensive period flats,the grounds were amazing and the people were nice but a few odd things happened that were boundary testing and also some oddly timed things happened. While I was there I felt OK, it was a beautiful place, very quiet and entrancing but as I drove away I had this overwhelming sense of relief that I was leaving, and I was scanning my brain for any information I'd told them about myself in case they could find me. I am not a scared person or one prone to flights of fancy , this has never happened to me before. I had a physical reaction to the street they live on when I drove past some days later. My brain said "I'm never going up there again" and I keep having that feeling of having been in a bubble, it bursting and me being glad to be away from it. A weird story I know. Anyone had similar? I just know there was something deeply wrong there. I even asked my lovely neighbour to send a prayer up for me to protect me , and I would consider myself a non believer!

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beastlyslumber · 04/08/2022 10:45

This thread is so chilling.

When I was younger I got into a relationship with a man who was definitely not a good person. I was very young and innocent and tried to convince myself that the overwhelming anxiety I was feeling was all about me not being open and trusting enough. (Yes he was totally gaslighting me, too.) One night I had a very vivid dream that he was the literal devil and was trying to kill me. I woke up feeling utterly terrified.

I'd like to say that I then dumped him, but it actually took me a few more weeks. I actually couldn't break up with him because I was too scared, but I made up a bunch of lies about having to go away, and he then dumped me. It was only after we split up that became completely terrified of him, so much so that I moved cities. He used to call me for a while and I would be shaking when I saw his number.

My instincts from the start told me to keep away from him, but I just didn't trust them. I think I was lucky that I got away in the end.

AgnestaVipers · 04/08/2022 10:46

@crwnhgow Just because its not intended doesn't mean its not there.

What's there is that you are feeling sensitive or defensive, and it's on you to sort that out rather than have a go at others.

AgnestaVipers · 04/08/2022 10:48

Badgirlriri · 03/08/2022 18:16

But in most of the stories the men haven’t actually done anything wrong.
It’s scared women saying they had a “feeling” and nothing actually happening to justify that feeling .

Yet 98% of sexual crime and 90% of homicides are done by men.

crwnhgow · 04/08/2022 11:34

AgnestaVipers · 04/08/2022 10:46

@crwnhgow Just because its not intended doesn't mean its not there.

What's there is that you are feeling sensitive or defensive, and it's on you to sort that out rather than have a go at others.

No, I think the poster happy about the man's death is the one with issues here.

Hiphophippityskip1 · 04/08/2022 11:39

I live near a beach that backs on to a forest. The beach is beautiful but the forest feels evil and gives me the fear. It literally terrifies me the vibes coming off it. I think others feel the same as there are rarely people walking in it. Also a lot of dogs just disappear in it.

Johnnysgirl · 04/08/2022 12:57

Hiphophippityskip1 · 04/08/2022 11:39

I live near a beach that backs on to a forest. The beach is beautiful but the forest feels evil and gives me the fear. It literally terrifies me the vibes coming off it. I think others feel the same as there are rarely people walking in it. Also a lot of dogs just disappear in it.

Literally disappear, as in never seen again?

WakeMeUpBeforeYouGo · 18/09/2022 22:12

Happened with me today-
Was selling an old phone on popular selling site. Buyer wanted to pick it up in person... something didn't feel right as buyer didn't want more detail or didn't bargain about price etc. I've had good experience with buyers before so gave him postcode but not exact house number to be cautious.
Could see meeting point from window and lo behold.. 3 dodgy looking youths in track pants, hoodies & bandanas come walking past.
Somehow had a bad feeling that if I met them, they were going to snatch the phone from me or use knives to rob me.
They tried to message me on the website on where I was but didn't reply and blocked them.. deleted ad too. Hung about walking around for a while and then left.
Very scary experience!

EntertainingandFactual · 19/09/2022 00:17

A million possible innocent reasons for this but I couldn’t get it out of my head at the time and still wonder what was going on…

I used to go food shopping mid week in the morning after school drop off.and would sometimes have breakfast in the cafe.
One time I saw a man (in his 20s) with a young girl (9,10,11) sitting together about an hour after school start time.
He had a drink and she had nothing. He was talking to her very intently in a ‘friendly’ way, leaning in and making jokes, reaching over, asking questions. She responded in no way at all, said absolutely nothing in return, no expression, totally blank and sat very still. This went on for the whole time I was there and his intensity gave me the creeps. Finally, they got up and walked out together.
I’ve often wondered if there was an innocent or sinister reason for the strange way they were interacting.

EntertainingandFactual · 19/09/2022 00:19

Just to add, I felt she looked deeply unhappy.

Mindmyown · 19/09/2022 02:14

I've had this happen a few times actually, I'm quiet trusting by nature and often don't realise how odd a situation was until later when I tell some else about, my dp swears its a minimal I haven't been murdered or whatever as I never seem to have the same boundaries or alarm bells as others.
There's two situations in particular that I honestly believe some sort of 6th sense kicked in .... the first was a neighbour, he worked closely with local sports club, eg he manage the playing grounds and other stuff... he's older than my parents, and was seen as an upstanding pillar of community type, everyone knew him and he was "lovely"... as a kid an easy way to make money is to sell programs at the matches in the same grounds he worked on, alot of my friends would do it at the weekend ... anyway I asked him one day if I could sell programs too and he was all cheerful and "absolutely" and said I could get a ride with him ... all fine, until the day came and I got in his car, as soon as we pulled off I felt so fucking uncomfortable/uneasy/sickly even ... he was way too nice/overly friendly, at the grounds I met a friend and me and her kind of just wondered around the building (going above the changing rooms etc.) It was kinda creepy, broad daylight but very eerie I literally took off, running down the flight of stairs out the door and over the the spectators entrance, I've no idea why, I waited for people to start showing up for match (I was super early because of who I got a lift with) I desperately wanted to go home I felt like crying but I couldn't explain why... I didn't go back into the building, after match I still had to hang on a couple of hours for the same person to give me a lift home .... I felt sickly again in his car, when we pulled over at my house, he pulled out a note (payment) and when handing it to me put his other hand on my knee and I left out of that car as fast as I could and made excuses to not go again the following weekend, I never wanted to be anywhere near him or that place ever again, I was about 12/13 at the time, as I got older I kept referring to him as that pervert and peado, my mum used to give out to me for it thinking I was just being an ignorant nasty teen as in reality nothing bad had happened, he was perfectly nice & was so busy I only got a couple of glances of him while I was at the grounds but I just could shake the feeling, I had mentioned it to a few others (my age group) at the time that I thought he was creepy and they legit called him a peado that he look at them weird or for too long and just too nice .... any way I'm all grown up now in my 30's, hot a call a few years ago from mam asking if insert name ever touched me I was like ew know why? She's like well you always called him a peado and I said yeah must of been so angsty teen rebellion shit but no he never gave me any reason to call him that & she tells to turn on the news, he was arrested for one of the biggest child abuse cases in the country along with a number of other men from the town operating out of that sports ground, some of the details have emerged and the abuse was sickening, violent & humiliating.. my mum is still convinced he must of done something or I seen something for me to suddenly take an instant revulsion to him but honestly he did nothing and apart from feeling uneasy the day I spent working for him was completely normal...

2nd story was much later (I was 23, living in same town I am now which is over 100 miles from home) was looking for a new rental and asked my letting agent who worked on behalf of my landlord if he could find me somewhere new... just side not I always found this letting agent a little too friendly or comfortable but he was an older man my guess mid sixties & seemed quite harmless, he rang me up and told me he had a letting he thinks would be perfect for me, I asked for address and he says he'll just come pick me up as he knew I didn't drive and would save me a taxi, so he comes I get in the car and instantly feel weird and suddenly overly aware I had willingly got into this man's car not knowing where I'm going, so I'm trying to be friendly but intently watching were we were going trying to guess by the rout, we end up in a housing estate inwas familiar with, and pull up to a house ... I remember thinking as we went inside how it didn't look like a rental, had bright red walls in hallways (mess paint job) made hall look small/claustrophobic... living room to left was dark/musky everywhere was rather dishevelled and unclean we didn't go into living room, just straight down hall to kitchen, it was brighter but very much "lived in" very untidy/dirty dishes in sink, ashtray full, yellow tinged white paint fittings/fixtures just gross... he opened backdoor and in walks chickens 🐔 he points to garden to show me their coup and a veg patch says he's been keeping chickens years, fucking alarm bells when I realised I was in this man's dark,dirty,creepy home ... so I'm edging back from the backdoor and towards the kitchen door to hallways slowly while making small talk, very aware front door was closed I hadn't noticed he closed it behind us, the overwhelming smell of stale smoke was so disgusting, so I decide to play dumb but assertive and I'm like "ah sure it's a grand house you have, just you here by yourself?" And started practically marching to the front door and he's coming up quickly behind me with a sob storey bout his wife leaving him a few years back he gets in front of me and one hand gestures to the dirty living room, for me to go in, so without moving my feet I do an over exaggerated leaning glance and the living room and I'm like oh that's nice but I need to get home to my baby (she was 3 y/o with her dad ) I said I hadn't long with the babysitter and I didn't know I'd be going to his house first so had told her I'd be 15/20 mins tops as I told her I was going with you to view a house (was hoping he would realise some one knew I was with him, I was honestly fucking terrified at this stage) he then tells me his moving out and letting the house and thought I'd be interested in it for its location so I'm like it's a bit big for me and the garden would need maintenance etc. I wouldn't be able yada yada.. so he grabs my elbow and says do you want to see upstairs 4 big bedrooms and large bathroom, saying he knew I was a single mum and I could have the place for a steal, so I open the front door and was washed with an overwhelming feeling of relief walking out and seeing the next door neighbour in their garden, so I loudly say that the house really isn't for me ... but anyway now I have to get back into the car as I didn't no where I was and needed to go home .... we drive and then pull off into a other estate, and at end of a cul de sack there was this super small "house" on the back of a different property ... we get out and he's like I just wanna show you this real quick and walks towards this tiny like garage conversion thing and I'm like in my head I'm not fucking going in there with this man, like fuck no... luckily I knew this area well & wasn't far from home so I tell him I can't go in as I said the babysitter is waiting and Im just gonna walk home because there was a shortcut through the park at entrance of this estate and would bring me to mine and I wanted to stop at shop etc. He seemed genuinely offended but I felt so unsafe... I've literally no idea if he meant me harm but I didn't feel comfortable even having him as a letting agent anymore so I quickly moved from the house I was in to avoid having to see him again.. found out later that the man had a loud of legal disputes with tennents for letting himself into there homes with consent or even knowledge... he had done that to me too but I just started leaving my key in the door so his key couldn't be used... he apparently walked into a tennents bedroom while she was in shower in the ensure, she walked out in a towel and he was just there, she screamed murder and pressed charges .... I wish I had of listened to that gut feeling at moment I first got in his car, I don't know if meantbany harm to me, maybe he has boundary issues or whatever but when I stepped into his house, not knowing it was his house, I was overcome with dread like some awfully bad was going to happen to me if I didn't get myself out ... if anyone's wondering why I didn't, this man was old but he was one of those big friendly giant types, I'm 5'3 & weigh 7 stone, he was about 6' 2 and built/stocky huge hands.. his friendly demeanor suddenly became very menacing, I suddenly realised just how vulnerable I was. Some people I've told this too think I did the right thing getting out/walking home while others think I was being a bit dramatic, they agreed walking home cause I was uncomfortable was the right thing to do but insists I was uncomfortable because I became paranoid for no reason because he didn't do anything apart from try convince to rent from him.

Mindmyown · 19/09/2022 02:26

Wow I really need to learn to proof read before posting, sorry its late and I wrote a novel lol hope you can all get the gist anyway even with the errors

hagathachristie · 19/09/2022 02:39

They sound like swingers . Not surprised it unnerved you .

Mothership4two · 19/09/2022 02:52

I remember a similar thread. I thought possibly:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4139167-Have-you-ever-met-someone-you-felt-was-truly-evil?page=1

but I thought I had commented on it about an old odd neighbour, so maybe not this one. Really similar to OP's question but now can't find it

AffIt · 19/09/2022 03:39

I have what my friends call a 'fight-dar' - I can sniff trouble, such as street fights or night club brawls, well in advance of when it's going to happen.

Don't need it so much these days as an upstanding 40-something, but it got us out of trouble many a time in our younger days.

Frances0911 · 19/09/2022 04:27

If I went into a strangers house, regardless of where they lived, alone to buy something, I'd be fairly anxious, and have it in the back of my mind that they could be serial killers and I might never be seen again. Highly unlikely, but you never know.

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 19/09/2022 07:07

I remember reading that one of the victims mothers of Fred and Rose West walked past their house and had what she described as awful feelings of dread. She felt instinctively that something was wrong and didn’t want to look at the house. Unbeknown to her, her daughter was very sadly buried under the cellar of that house. Human instinct is very powerful and should always be followed and never ignored. It is our primitive survival instinct instructing us to move away from potential danger.

Hopefullysoon2022 · 19/09/2022 07:08

But in most of the stories the men haven’t actually done anything wrong.
It’s scared women saying they had a “feeling” and nothing actually happening to justify that feeling .

@Badgirlriri maybe it's because they listened to their gut,they didn't become statistics.

Maytodecember · 19/09/2022 07:36

Swingers sounding you out to see if you were interested comes to mind.

Coconutree · 19/09/2022 07:41

I may have missed it ,but what is it that you bought?

Palmtreedance · 19/09/2022 07:50

OP- read the book "the gift of fear" by Gavin De Becker. I think every woman should read it. Its basically about the primal part of our brain and how our instincts should always be trusted as they keep us safe. Its a great book about staying safe and listening to your instincts.

Clockwatching54321 · 19/09/2022 07:50

There’s a story of a lady on the london tube when the bombing happened, she got a funny feeling about one of the men and got off the tube / moved down the train and it saved her life.

Georgeandzippyzoo · 19/09/2022 08:04

I was walking home from a scout meeting, along a well lit main road, grass verge. It was late autumn and dark but only about 8pm. I'm NOT easily spooked, happy to walk anywhere etc.
Meeting was about 400m from my home. As I was walking I saw a man in the phone box talking to someone and shortly after I passed him he came out. I initially didn't know which way he walking but I immediately felt instantly I was in trouble, it was like a wave washed over me and I was having to assess what I should. He was coming my way and I was aware he was walking quickly.
The end of my street was about 10m away and my inner voice told me not to keep walking and I ended up going to a nursing home and knocking on the door. They very kindly let me in and allowed me to phone my husband (I'd forgotten my phone). I was shaking like mad. Husband was there in less than 5 mins. When I got in I did phone the non emergency police line just to report it although I was aware there was nothing they could really do but I wanted it recording incase something happened to someone else.
The nurse in the home told me I was the 3 woman that month who had called in under similar circumstances. 1 felt she was being followed and the other was actually followed/approached by a man in a car , who then called in the home to see if she was there!
This event knocked me for 6 for months. Everywhere I went on my own I was watching for 'odd' things, hyper aware of those around me etc, it really affected my behaviour, walking home from bus stops etc .
I have NO idea, and will never know, if I really was in danger . It's the ONLY time I've ever felt it but it was such a deep visceral feeling I couldn't ignore it.

KylieCharlene · 19/09/2022 08:08

Loving this thread.
I'll add later.

Northernparent68 · 19/09/2022 08:13

LuckyCat4 · 01/08/2022 13:20

I took my new baby to visit a relative that we didn't see very often. He was holding the baby and I just had this awful sense that he was weighing up not giving her back to me. It was something in the way he reacted when I said we'd have to leave soon and I felt this huge unease and was genuinely scared that he'd somehow try and keep her/us in his house.

I do recognise this could have been post natal anxiety, overprotective mum with a new baby etc but I never had a reaction to anyone else and we visited lots of people/ had lots of visitors.

The sense of relief when I got us out of there was enormous.

More likely the latter, have you ever heard of someone refusing to return a baby ?

beachcitygirl · 19/09/2022 08:20

@Mothership4two was it this thread? This is also similiar. I started the thread, but some great comments.

Presence of evil www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amibeing_unreasonable/4456006-presence-of-evil

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