To think Britain is heading towards economical and social collapse

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It feels like we are living in strange times, having come out of a global pandemic, the war in Ukraine and now the cost of living crisis and the added pressure from Brexit.

Ive barely slept tonight, worrying about what might happen with energy prices. I’ve heard the energy price cap is expected to rise to £3,850 in October. A few months ago I’m sure they predicting it would be £2,400 and that was horrifying enough.
Now I’m seeing people on the energy support Facebook group talking about monthly energy costs of £900 per month. It feels like this is escalating out of control very quickly and the Government are allowing us to sleepwalk into a disaster.

I realised tonight that if the price cap does keep increasing at the rate it has then what will happen to all the businesses once people can’t afford their energy bills anymore? They will probably increase their prices to try and cover their costs but that will drive down sales even more as people won’t have as much money to spend anymore. Eventually it will only be the essentials that we can afford so that surely means that all the other businesses won’t be able to afford to keep going?

Then what? Unless our government actually get their heads together about this then the whole country will end up in financial ruin and we will see the breakdown of society. Why so much focus on the leadership contest, surely that must take a back step.

Ive just checked the parliament website and the House of Commons has now gone into summer recess so they won’t meet again until September! I think this is an emergency situation and that they should be called back to focus on this. They get paid enough.

I think it’s outrageous that they can claim for utility bills on their expenses when there are people out there with young children who are worried about being cut off and put onto a prepayment meter.

I think you should calm down. We are heading into hard times, not the end of times (although, global warming, give it 20 years).

I think you should calm down.

this just show your ignorance to peoples real worries. It’s being predicted energy Direct Debits will be more than some people actually earn per month

Some inaccuracies in your post - MPs can only claim utility bills for a second residence (which in many cases their job requires them to have).

I think times are going to be very hard, I’m not sure about total societal collapse. People find ways to adapt.

We will get through it.

It’s hard to keep calm when I’m worried about being able to afford to keep a roof over my children’s heads…

The government just use one distraction after another to keep in the headlines whilst they systematically sell off the countries assets and make laws which take away our rights. Their libertarian mindset is creating an individualistic dog eat dog country. Britain is definitely on a downward trajectory.

If it can help, other countries are not doing better.
I'm currently on holiday to visit family in my own country and yesterday among other things have paid 20 Euros for a pack of 30 nappies and 10 Euros for 12 ibuprofen tablets - rethinking my plans to go back...

In France the energy raise has been capped at 4% because the Government didn't sell of the EDF so they can control the price rises. A pack of paracetamol is under €2 !

vodkaredbullgirl · Today 05:41
We will get through it.

great for you, many people will not get through this & through no fault if their own

Exactly this. It's similar everywhere.

Yes it's going to be tough for a bit, but we will come out the other end. I understand your worries. In the early 1990s, I was the child whose home was lost.

My parents recovered, as did I.

As PP said. What would you like MPs to do? Pass what legislation? Or just have a debate of hot air. They are in their constituencies, helping people who are about to lose their homes. Better to work on the ground.

The annoying thing is that we are in limbo waiting for a new PM. But, everyone wanted rid of the current one so here we are. I suspect more help/changes will be announced in September.

I wish it was just a case of me being overly pessimistic but sadly there doesn’t seem to be any sign of prices going down and the price cap always seems to end up going up by more than original predictions suggest.

I just can’t see how a normal civilised society can function once it reaches a point where the majority of people run out of money for food and people start dying. There will be mass panic and social unrest.

I earn a relatively good salary and I’m worried about how I’m going to cope. How on earth are people on more modest incomes going to manage?

As PP said. What would you like MPs to do?

set the energy caps lower than they have, much lower

I'm hoping it doesn't get that bad but think the relatively nice, comfortable times of the last few decades are over.

Ideally thus would be a bad blip but with the rapid demographic change I can't see how things will improve.

In MN world yes in the outside world no , yes people are aware of price increases but many many people can weather the storm .
It's a tough time but it's not a world war scenario.

Or reduce other costs so we can afford energy bills. In Germany they have cut train fares by 90% and in Spain by 100%z (ie you can travel on the train for free)

Omg get a grip , mass panic and dying . Really !!!

Or reduce other costs so we can afford energy bills

or increase wages & minimum wage

just can’t see how a normal civilised society can function once it reaches a point where the majority of people run out of money for food and people start dying.

I am sorry to be difficult but this is just not going to happen.

It’s not just us, it’s global. We need to stop thinking of this as just an us problem when there are people having these worries all over the planet.

In all honesty, the timing of all this couldn’t be worse. It’s bad enough it’s during there summer holiday but they then throw in a popularity contest into the mix as well.

Still, even a global pandemic didn’t stop them from enjoying their summer. So global economic collapse wasn’t going to either.

It is all part of Agenda 30, which is now under way. Read up on it, it is well publicised and no secret.
We are walking into a dystopian nightmare and this is just the start.

Omg get a grip , mass panic and dying . Really !!!

do get your head out the sand and look at what’s happening to others

I earn a relatively good salary and I’m worried about how I’m going to cope. How on earth are people on more modest incomes going to manage?

OK OP, we understand you are worried, the unknown is always worrying. Thats what Mumsnet is for, to help relieve those worries.

What sort of salary are you on and given the thrust of your concerns - energy bills - tell us what your monthly electricity and gas usage are, not what the direct debit is but what you actually use and pay for and I'm sure we'll be able to make suggestions or at the very least help calm your fears

But only on MN . Literally no one at work , family or friends has said they are going to be in dire straights . Yes prices have gone up and some people have said they are going to tighten their belts but not one is in a panic about this .
I think there is no doubt some poorer people will struggle but then haven't they always .

Well Agenda 30 looks great

Eliminate poverty, no one 'left behind'

What's the problem with equalising the world ?

What do I want the government to do?

I want them to treat this with the same urgency as they did with the Covid pandemic for a start. They should be called back from the summer recess with immediate effect.

All main political parties need to get together and work to try and get the country through this situation. Martin Lewis has called for them to do this and it’s fallen on deaf ears…

There needs to be regular COBRA meetings where this is discussed. Right now, not in the Autumn when it’s too late and the proverbial hits the fan!

They need to stop wasting time on measly random handouts which do NOTHING to resolve this crisis in the long term.

They need to urgently put in measures to drive forward the production of nuclear power stations. We need to invest now to secure energy resources for future generations.

The government need to admit that they made a mistake by selling off our gas storage and invest now to replace it.

Most of all I think they to put to renationalise energy companies - The current situation is unsustainable. There is no competition in the market anymore so renationalisation is the only option. Prices will continue to climb otherwise. If that means introducing legislation to do so then so be it.

The outlook is looking very bleak. We owe it to our children to hold them to account over this. Experts in the energy industry were warning about this way before the war in the Ukraine - which had become a very convenient excuse for the cause of this. The war has made it worse but it’s not the root cause…